Who has the greate legacy, Joe Calzaghe or John Ruiz?

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  1. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    :deal
    Calzaghe wins.
     
    safe_pa, Dec 22, 2008
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  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I strongly dislike Calzaghe, but you have to give a man credit when credit is due. Comparing his legacy to Ruiz and asking which is better, is a farce, a joke, an insult.
     
    El Cepillo, Dec 22, 2008
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  3. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    I know, its ****ed up, Hoya's no fan either but at least u two can be balanced.

    The same folk that voted for Ruiz are the same ****s that get heated when someone votes for Calzaghe in an obvious poll he should lose and then slam ESB for bias/hating/nuthuggery :patsch.
     
    BadJuju83, Dec 22, 2008
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  4. Killer Instinct

    Killer Instinct Be formless, shapeless... Full Member

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    LMAO. :good good thread.
     
    Killer Instinct, Dec 22, 2008
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  5. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    I can't blame Donovan this week. The passes he threw were laser accurate, he couldn't do more than that except catch it himself.

    I blame Reid. He knew we needed recievers, why draft Kolb? If your going to throw the ball 99.9% of the time you better have some damn good recievers.
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  6. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    When has he ever earned credit?

    Seriusly, I believe Ruiz has the better resume. I don't see how anyone can deny it.
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I will restate my previous post...as you still haven't answered the question posed...

    John Ruiz's best win was over an old Holyfield. He has lost 8 times. Including loses to Valuev (twice) who is widely regard as the worst World Champion ever.

    How can you describe Byron Mitchell, a two time WBA Super middleweight Champion as 'a nobody'. The fact you even made this thread suggests you're an idiot, that comment proves it. Ritchie Woodhall was a domestic, European and WBA World Champion, again, you dismiss him as 'a nobody', you say the same thing about Robin Ried - a WBC World Champion (do you actually watch boxing?) Bernard Hopkins was 'a ****ing old man', who recently schooled Kelly Pavlik. Hindsight is a great attribute to have, because at the time Lacy was the 'next big thing' and an World Title holder, Bika was a ranked top ten super-middleweight contender, Kessler was prime, Jones was shot and Eubank was a very good win consider Calzaghe was right at the start of his career. Sheika and Brewer were also good, credible wins for Calzaghe.

    Overall, Joe Calzaghe has an ok resume, nothing special. But the fact is, Calzaghe is the best super-middleweight ever, he unified the division, beat every belt holder, moved up a weight and beat 'the man' at light-heavyweight. He is also a 46-0, ten year, undefeated, world champion.

    So what, in your ****ed up, crazy, delusional mind makes you think for a second that John Ruiz has a better legacy than Joe Calzaghe
     
    El Cepillo, Dec 22, 2008
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  8. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    Name Ruiz's best 5 wins

    EDIT. Scratch that answer Hoya's question first
     
    BadJuju83, Dec 22, 2008
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  9. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It sure is buddy.
     
    EL-MATADOR, Dec 22, 2008
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  10. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    But you asked who has the better legacy not resume :patsch
     
    safe_pa, Dec 22, 2008
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  11. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yup and it's getting old to be honest. :tired
     
    EL-MATADOR, Dec 22, 2008
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  12. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    Jimmy Thunder
    James Toney
    Toney Tucker
    Evander Holyfeld
    Kirk Johnson
    Hasim Rahman
    Fres Oquendo
    Andrew Golota
    James McCline
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  13. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    Ok well, who has the better RESUME?
     
    hambone, Dec 22, 2008
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  14. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    :deal and also :happy
    Hoya sure can write a good post!
     
    safe_pa, Dec 22, 2008
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  15. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't see how anyone can believe it. :nut
     
    EL-MATADOR, Dec 22, 2008
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