Who has the greater legacy: Pacquiao or Floyd?

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Superior legacy?

  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  2. Manny Pacquiao

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    67.7%
  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Tell me Isnt the law here in the US That a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?? The CSAC nor the POS who's lies started this whole debacle can produce one iota of PROOFTony ever cheated or even tried to cheat. I'll bet Tony's lawyers were PRAYING the CSAC would indict Tony . If they were foolish enough to do it he'd be a very rich man today
    All they did was revoke his Ca boxing licence on SUSPICION he tried to cheat
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    hey, nobody can force to get educated, some people take pride in their own ignorance, just look around..
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Thats it I'm done with your stupidity Youre now going on Ignore Prattle to yourself
    Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK Mr. Defender of the Biggest Cheater in the Sport.
     
  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    How many times do I have to say why I don't believe him? That's a decision based on the balance of probabilities having look at the facts presented. I've discounted nothing. I've said I think it more unlikely than likely. For me there are too many factors that suggest guilt.

    You have looked at the same facts and decided you think he's innocent. That's your prerogative.

    Only Canelo knows 100% whether or not he made a conscious effort to cheat.

    And please don't use that cancer analogy ever again, it's really really stupid.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not really arguing with you, nor have I decided he's innocent. I've made it very clear that I don't know what happened and generally don't make claims like that. I don't accuse fighters of **** without knowing what happened. The cancer / common cold analogy is apt, just because you are aware of a problem doesn't mean you are impervious to it.

    Canelo may have been aware of the Mexican meat issue but that's not going to stop him from eating meat, meat that could be contaminated. Your argument that he stated that he doesn't eat meat in while in training camp means nothing since he wasn't in training camp when he was tested! And members of his team being butchers has zero to do with Mexican beef farmers adding clenbuterol to cattle feed. These are your facts, these are your reasons that convinced you he was cheating. How absurd.

    Unlike you, I don't assume **** or jump to conclusions, get it? I have never stated that Canelo has been proven innocent. I simply don't know what happened and I'm not going to accuse a dude of cheating when meat contamination seems like a far more reasonable and likely explanation given the problem in Mexico.
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    So you're claiming don't have an opinion on whether or not you think he's guilty? That doesn't stand up when you say things like 'meat contamination seems like a far more reasonable and likely explanation given the problem in Mexico'. That says you think it's more likely that it was ingested accidentally.

    I said with the knowledge he surrounds himself and his own comments of not eating meat in camp that I think that unlikely. We're on opposite sides of the fence here but you're pretending you're sat right on it.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's wrong with staying neutral on stuff like this and challenging people who make claims, accusations? I don't know why you keep bringing up his comments about not eating meat while in camp like it's this big Eureka! moment. He wasn't in camp when he was tested! It's well known that he was making public appearances during that time, and was at a baseball game with Bill Clinton right before he was tested. He had not started his training camp yet so using that statement as a reason to believe he was cheating makes no sense.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You keep saying you've kept an open mind when you've repeatedly stated that you think him being innocent is in your opinion more likely providing more and more points for why you think that's the case. I think it's weird you're saying you're neutral when it's clear your not.

    We're going around in circles here.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    Just answer me this OK : Are you aware that Canelo wasn't in training camp when he was tested? If the answer to that is YES then why do you keep bringing up the statement that he doesn't eat meat while in camp? IIR that was something Oscar said, not Canelo, but regardless I don't see how that suggest he's cheating when he wasn't in camp when it happened.
     
  11. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    FISA
     
  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Weak man
    He brings it up
    Because of the ability to cycle off
     
  13. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao has the greater legacy.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

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    Then you have another era with Morales and Barrera in addition to that.
     
  15. iii

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    I have read some of CJ's posts & I find them balanced, informative & accurate!
    Are you saying bennet is not a total golden shower boy Shyster , or that Oscar did give ol' Adelaid a good seeing to ,to get her distorted veiw of the 1st GGG fight, he gave her something hubby was not...nah man you is foo foo yard mowt trash...Don't try your divide & rule stuff hear blood , CJ is solid & on point...you is the troll meister here...
    I hve to disagree with you & CJ then, there was vegas corruption, no way was that a split deceision , it was unanimous but vegas is tilted as usual.
     
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