Who has the greater legacy: Pacquiao or Floyd?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FastSmith7, Sep 20, 2017.


Superior legacy?

  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  2. Manny Pacquiao

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    67.7%
  1. FinitoxDinamita

    FinitoxDinamita Member banned Full Member

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    Floyd has the greater legacy, no doubt about it.
     
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  2. kirk

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    Let me be clear... that I like Pac more than I like Mayweather. I rooted for him to beat Mayweather and would do so if they fought again.

    However. I wind up asking 3 questions often.

    1. Mayweather beat Pac fairly easily imo.
    Does Pac have a win and a performance of that caliber, against that level of opponent?

    2. Mayweather beat Canelo fairly easily.
    Does Pac have a win and a performance of that caliber, against that level of opponent?

    3. Mayweather absolutely toyed with Pacs nemesis and kryptonite in a borderline shutout.
    Does Pac have a win and a performance of that caliber, against that level of opponent?


    Would be interested in hearing perspectives.
     
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  3. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    Beautiful strawman, it will scare lots of crows off your corn.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It's obvious that you can't handle the truth.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Very valid points, great post.
     
  6. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    Cool, you built a second very quickly. Must be lots of discarded men's clothes laying around your farm....
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO You clown 118-100 is no more ludicrous than 118-110. You accuse unbiased posters of being bitter & being haters if the say anything slightly detrimental about your idol
    Youre the one needs to log off your adoration of floyd & Canelo is unhealthy:loveyou:
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Did you see my reply to you about the ESPN and Ring polls and the panel of writers who voted?
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Yes & they are mostly writers that you have ridiculed in the past. Everyone has their own opinion about who has the better legacy, which is as it should be. I think,& it seems the majority of people seem to agree, that Pac's legacy dwarfs Floyd's. Pac is the peoples choice of Fighter of the Era & Fighter of the Decade. Sorry you dont like it but there it is the people have spoken.
    Oh & BTW I'm not a Pac fan as such I'm a boxing fan but I do respect Pac's accomplishments far more than Floyds
     
  10. Pimp C

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    If it's based on popularity and who they like more yes Pac will win but it's not, it's based on merit and PBF wins that's why he won those 2 polls.
     
  11. tinman

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    Andre Ward beat Sergey Kovalev. Does Floyd have a win that good? Could Floyd beat Kovalev? And Floyd would be KO by Ward.

    All valid points.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Zero valid points.
     
  13. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I'm actually surprised by your post and blatant disregard for the circumstances surrounding each of these fights.

    Mayweather used illegal IV fluids for a non-existent medical condition. WADA code was broken. To wit:
    • IV fluids above 50 ml must be administered under a medical team at a medical facility. The reason for this is because the use of IV fluids is a popular and effective method for masking PED use. And then there's also...
    • Floyd accusing McGregor of cheating by using illegal IV fluids. Floyd even said that it was illegal. What does that tell you about Floyd's illegal IV use?
    Floyd cheated and the fight wasn't on an even playing field even if you take away Pacquiao's confirmed shoulder injury.

    Canelo was drained and a corpse. The guy is now talking about fighting Kovalev at light heavyweight. That tells you how big the kid is. Bradley outboxed a master boxer in JMM coming off of one of the biggest KO victories in the history of the sport. Bradley pretty much cleaned out 140. Canelo has never cleaned out a division and he has dubious gift decisions over Lara and Golovkin (2X). Canelo was green and drained. Bradley > Canelo, imo.

    Out of all their opponents, Mosley and Cotto were the only ones to fight above 147 and both were small for 154/160 (Cotto).

    Mayweather-Marquez was to be contested at a catchweight of 144. Floyd didn't bother making the weight and happily paid the fine. Besides, Floyd is a nightmare match up for JMM. You can say all you want that Floyd would have beaten JMM regardless, but the fact of the matter is that the fight was not on an even playing field. Can you imagine if Mikey Vs. Spence was supposed to be at a catchweight of 144 and Spence came in at 147?
     
  14. Sunchild78

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    Lol every one who beats Pac was now on steroids. No matter the weight class Marquez fought Floyd he would've still lost. Marquez was never on Floyd level, keep in mind Floyd wasn't active for almost two years when he fought Marquez, and still schooled him. Pac couldn't do that to Marquez active, inactive or retired. He couldn't do it in the lower weight classes or at 147lbs, as we all witness. Maidana had his shot twice and came up short twice. You talk about Floyd being unfair with Marquez. When Pac fought De la Hoya he didn't fight him at 154lbs, he drained him to fight at a weight he haven't fought at in years correct. When he fought Cotto, he also didn't fight him at the full 147lbs either, he fought him at a catch weight as well. So if you want to use the unfair card don't be bias towards one, and not the other. Be as it may, Pac has not beat the best fighter of his era, when he had the chance to, so deal with it.
     
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  15. Pakkuman

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    What don't you understand, moron? There was a catchweight in place and it wasn't honored by Floyd. What if Mikey and Spence was contracted at 144, but Spence came in at 147? There's literally nothing to discuss here. Wasn't an even playing field. Period.

    Maidana was paid to wear gloves he wasn't used to or liked. A boxer only has one weapon in the ring—and Floyd paid Maidana to compromise his punching ability. No other boxer has made Maidana do that. It's like forcing Lance Armstrong to race in a Giant instead of a Trek.

    Pac went up 2 weight classes. Oscar came down 1. Fair compromise. Why did Floyd say that he preferred that his opponents be at their best weight class in the Cotto fight but then drained Canelo down to 152? Who, by the way, is talking about fighting at 175 now.

    Floyd's a cheater and needs every single advantage in order to compete.