Who has the greater legacy: RJJ or Hopkins?

I know your frusterated and angry, but puberty will come soon, it eventually happens.:good

 

Lots of genuine debate for something that isn't even close.

 

And that responds to the points made in my post?

You can't respond to the shredding of your argument ,so, like a little kid you throw some ill-informed personal **** that has nothing to do with the subject.

You're pathetic.

 

His loss to Tarver was due in part to that very performance you mention. He went from 200 to 175 and , given his stage in life, ran into some energy problems.

(Same thing happened to Tarver when he did the same thing !)

By your reasoning: Shane owns Oscar, Vernon owns Shane and Ricardo owns Vernon. Does this mean Ricardo owns Oscar?

Straightforward fact is, Roy owns Bernard.
Decisive victory.

You can't read, you can't write, and you don't know how to think. You just spout off.

Like I said, PATHETIC !

 

Not so straightforward at all.

 

Thanks man!:good

 

Hey McLovin, my little cousin's doctor hooked him up with some hormone pills.... I can get the doc's number for you if you want

 

This is pathetic. Please don't try and pretend to be objective again.

 

Good Point. Fighters do age differently. Look at Vargas 29 years old and most people would label him past his prime. Some even call him shot. Look at James Toney at 35 against an aged Holyfield. He looked sharp.

The more I think about it I think Jones was IMO the better fighter and has the greater legacy. His best wins are better than Hopkins's best wins and he was relavant for a longer time period.

Hopkins can claim consistency but nobody really took him seriously until he dismantled Felix Trinidad in 2001. The funny thing is had he lost to Trinidad people would have seen Hopkins as a flash in the pan even though Hopkins was clearly a veteran champion at that point.

In boxing more than any other sport, You're only as good as your last performance unless you are a star. Then you get another chance. Fans for whatever reason prefer a strong finish more so than a strong start. Hopkins is closing out a stronger finish than Jones and that seems to resonate in the eyes of posters despite what happened previously.

 

Only a few vocal posters really. The poll isn't overly close as the further out of Jones prime we get the more most recognize his impact.

 

Whatever makes you feel like a man.

 

Says the alias.

 

Again, if that makes you feel better.

 

Hmm, I'm not sure quite how to take your post. Are you making that statement as a negative point on Hopkins? Just asking for clarity, because I wouldn't consider the fact that the public was behind-the-times to be his fault.

 

Welcome back Dipper....trying to hide your Jones hate and Tarver love ( I even saw you criticize him this week) in an attempt to hide who you are?

Sorry, you're too easy to spot. I have pointed out that you were probably him for 2 weeks now.