Who has the greater legacy: RJJ or Hopkins?

Or it went over your head.

 

I remember reading an old interview with hopkins where he said that he felt that he wouldn't be able to compete with Jones fighting above 168.

 

That's because he had the motivation to win the Heavyweight title despite being shot in that fight as well. What motivation did he need to beat Tarver(Which he already did in the first fight)?, win a the undisputed title in a division he already cleaned?, the motivation was to shut someone up and it wasn't enough as it showed in the fight, not to forget that physically he wasn't the same either. If you remember his comments after the Ruiz fight you'll agree, Roy's plans were clear, he wanted a mega-fight with Mike Tyson(clearly for big money) and then out of boxing. So his plans had absolutely nothing to do with staying and dominating which proves that he KNEW he wasn't as he used to be anyway but was still managing with his skills and experience. Sadly, he still believed he has more to prove simply because many started to call him a "ducker" and all of that total junk so he gave Tarver another shot.

 

Not the point now was it? Point was, Jones wasn't prime and you don't seem to get that. His prime was over years before.

And Hopkins wasn't prime when he beat Tito, never said he was.

It's ******ed that you think that little saying of yours seems to have an impact. Makes you look like a bitter child who is upset about someone he has never met.

 

Exactly.:good

 

Yes it was. Never said it wasn't. Why are you bringing it up?

 

Never saw it....would be interesting to read.

 

No . It was you who ****ed up again Manlovin, when you said:

"You keep bringing that up". Kg didn't bring it up before. I did.

and like Scar, I refuted your mna who beat the man who beat the man...horse**** by mentioning Ali and Berbick.

You've heard it all before. It was valid then. And valid now. And all you can come up with is:

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Yes kid, it IS the same logic.


Now you can't remember who said it and you're too witless to go back and look.

BTW: Ali did not split the series with Norton. He won two out of three. (Watched the first one live, a disappointing night)

ANOTHER new avatar (is this the REAL you ?), but still the same slow-witted poster, whattever the avatar, whatever the username.

 

60/40 was fair in favor in Jones in 2002. Hopkins turned it down and took less money to fight a lesser fighter.

Jones should have taken the offer last year.

But I am bored now. Enjoy your hatred. Welcome back Dipper.

 

Roy didn't hire Mackie for the second Tarver fight, he hired him for the Ruiz fight. Dude, you don't need to be extra smart to figure this out. What is more motivating, to move up to Heavyweight and win the Championship there for the first time or move down and beat some trash talker in a division he already dominated and collected every single championship belt available?, this should make it clear why the motivation part is infact true, not just that but also showing signs of not being the same at all. Another serious point is his performance after moving down from Heavyweight being extremely weak despite beating Tarver the first time, isn't that what Tarver laughed at Roy for using as an "excuse" but he his self used after Hopkins beat the living hell out of him?

 

I don't really recall Mackie being hired for the 2nd fight to be honest, maybe I did see it at the time but right now I totally can't remmeber that, my bad if you're right. Sadly, staying home would've automatically labelled Roy as a "ducker" like many haters claimed he was but as a fan of his I'm proud of him for standing up and taking the challenge despite not being anything similar to what he used to be.

 

Loving it. :yep :blurp

 

WTF is this?

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Have you gotten into your Dad's booze, or his medicine cabinet?



It's not Friday night where I am kid, We're well into Saturday morning here.

But if it's Friday with you, what's a young fella like yourself doing at the keyboard, when you should be out getting some ***** (if you're male) or some dick (if you're female) ?

I hope you score more with the babes (or dudes) than you do on this forum.

 

Probably fine, whoever or whatever the BX is.

 

is it verified that rjj hurt his hand against hopkins? thats always bothered me. it's like he's detracting from hopkins good performance against him, by saying he beat him with one hand. most people thought he'd blow hopkins out, but bernard took a few rounds in that fight. rjj has a history of spouting bull****, and seems like a lot of people buy into that.