Who has the greater legacy: RJJ or Hopkins?

Im ball sucking Jones because I disagree with your rediculous statements?? It was you that started this not me. Well atleast I got you to admit that a fighter can be 34 and be past it. Do you think Oscar is in his prime?

 

Wow!!:nut

 

Hill went on to win another title after losing to Jones. He has not aged the same and doesn't move up and down weight.

 

hopkins edges rjj.

going by resumes:

hopkins: record of MW title defenses, linear champ at 175 and better longetivity. best wins include trinidad, DLH, Winky, Eastman, echols, joppy, glen johnson, tarver. (hopkins can possibly still add to this)

Rjj: held titles at 160,168,175 and hvy weight. best wins include Hopkins, Toney, Ruiz, Griffin, Woods, Harmon, Harding, Gonzales, and Hill.

 

Took you that long to come up with that?? Hill won a title at Cruiserweight after Jones beat him.

 

Hopkins is not the Lineal Champ. Erdai is....

Jones never was either cuz DM was when he got it from Hill, who became lineal when he beat Maske.

 

Im never the one that said a fighter couldn't possibly be past it beacuase he is only 34. You did... and seemed to not know what you were even talking about when you were talking about Hill. Fighters age differently period!

 

come on man, even in their fight rjj was hardly 'destroying' hopkins. hopkins won some rounds as well, and most people thought rjj would just KO the relative unknown. also where does this bs about him beating hopkins with one hand come from? oh, rjj said it so it must be true. he also said he threw the third tarver fight, cause he did'nt want his dad to get any credit. rjj could be the president of his own fanclub, and anything he says should'nt be taken seriously.

 

Actually, it was mentioned during the fight that Jones had hurt his hand. One of the commentators commented on it. I am fairly sure of this.

The line about his dad was just plain silly though.

 

ok point taken, but in paper rjj was still the recognized champ at 175.

 

Yah, I think he was champ too. But DM was a beast and they should have fought.

 

They aren't comparable titles. Hill won the WBA title, not the IBC....unless you think that ANY title will do. In which case I can add about 5 more champions to Jones ledger...

 

yeah i felt rjj could have really pushed for that fight hard if he wanted to, with hbo backing that could have been arranged. that would have made his resume greater. though he did beat gonzales who beat DM.

 

Hall nearly beat DM and Jones fought him. He fought Griffin after he beat Toney. This is a false statement.

 

Look again....Jones won the WBO NABO LHW title. They are not the same thing. Erdai is the WBO champion and the Lineal champion.