Who has the greater legacy: RJJ or Hopkins?

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  1. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bull****. i'd prefer if you said that toney and hopkins were better wins than tito and DLH. but ruiz?? A **** hvy weight title holder handpicked by rjj, so he can brag about winning a hvyweight strap. ruiz was the right man at the right time. he could have gone for byrd's ibf title, that would have been more credible. you roytards are delusional for dragging hopkins resume through mud.
     
  2. standing 8

    standing 8 Active Member Full Member

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    Voted for Jones, two out of the three biggest Hopkins victories were against smaller men.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Those two wins are definitely better :deal
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good deal...like I said originally it's always close (usually closer that this in the poll...Jones is starting to be looked at in a better light since the fighters he beat who were "bums" seem to be doing well) and a case can be made for both if you really wanted to.

    I am from Pensacola so Jones is my fav of all time.
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But in the ring, he only has 2.....Hopkins has 4 and one of them is to Jones.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Jones has the slight edge here.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yah 3....

    And no, losing a fight by DQ is not the same as losing by decision in your first fight. While both being losses, they are totally different in impact, just as Jones losses by KO are different in impact. But that was cute of you to try. And his losses to Taylor count as well....close losses are losses, and you can't change them. Hopkins draw with an above average fighter must be counted as well:bbb
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You just hate Jones.
     
  9. A-50

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    You consider John Ruiz a signature win? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Good Lord this might be worse than some of the crap the Wlad Klitschko fans post.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think a lot of people are just looking at wins and not looking at how the losses. More specifically, how they lost.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, we are looking how....and who to as well. We are also looking at when, which is a significant factor.

    As far as wins, we are looking the same thing. Who, when, and how.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you think about it, Hopkins only has one loss in which he clearly lost. And that was against RJJ. His other 3 losses were as follows: His very first fight as a pro and his two losses to JT. And i know that maybe half of real boxing fans think that Hopkins won both. So they were disputable losses.

    On the flip side, look at how many fights Jones has lost clearly. Obviously, his two crushing KOs versus Tarver and Johnson. And his 3rd fight with Tarver in which he simply wanted to stay upright to redeem himself.

    I don't know, just the way RJJ ended his career leaves a bad taste in my mouth. What's worse is that he didn't show the heart of a champion. That's what gets me the most. He was afraid of contact.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Who's that chick?
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My girlfriend.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Is she available for private parties? For a small fee of course :D