who has the greater legacy? Tszyu or Hatton?

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  1. IrnBruMan

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  2. Davies

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    Why Tszyu wasn't in his prime but by no means was he shot,

    He was still the lineal Lightwelterweight champ, still KO'ing everyone he faced and was recognized as a top 10 P4P fighter, Hatton made him retire on his stool, so by sayin its a ******ed opinion that Hatton would beat the Tszyu who beat Judah only 3 fights previous is a bit harsh,

    I am entitiled to my opinion and think a prime Tszyu wouldn't beat a prime Hatton in no way is that ******ed as i mentioned before he was still the No1 man at LWW when Hatton made him retire so i dont think it would be a far gone conclusion that Hatton was the harder fighter
     
  3. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    tszyu!!!

    come on people . i dont even want to qualify this with an explanation. gonna be like butting my head against a wall- but here goes:

    tzyu is an all timer- an amateur master, a pro who was at the top for 10 years- in or around the top. hatton had a nice run- but never was really regaiiled ever for being the best in his division. their where moments where he beat champs- but there was always a floyd or a pac to smack him down- real bad. real real bad. those performances drop him out of all time discussions. tsyzu however - was a legit beast. a great great champ.
     
  4. war4years

    war4years Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the amateur KT was a GREAT amateur. he didn't fight the same in his earlier professional days though. he tried to walk through guys in his early pro days, and was very successful at that until he fought cool vince.

    KT vs. vernon forrest as an amateur is some beautiful boxing.
     
  5. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can i break this down so we can look at it.

    Im a huge Tszyu fan everyone knows this.

    But there resumes dont even compare.

    Tszyu is ahead by miles.

    On Tszyu's resume there are 10 years of World Title fights.

    Some of the names on his list are good quality guys and early in his career aswell.

    Juan LaPorte
    Livingston Bramble
    Hector Lopez
    Jake Rodriguez
    Roger Mayweather
    Hugo Pineda
    Corey Johnson
    Jan Bergman
    Calvin Grove
    Rafael Ruelas
    Diosbelys Hurtado
    Miguel A Gonzalez
    Ahmed Santos
    Julio C Chavez
    Sharmba Mitchell X 2
    Oktay Urkal
    Zab Judah
    Ben Tackie
    Jesse J Lieja

    Now here in my opinion is Hatton quality wins.

    Freddie Pendleton
    Eammon Magee
    Vince Phillips
    Ben Tackie
    Michael Stewart
    Ray Oliviera
    Kostya Tszyu
    Carlos Muassa
    Luis Collazo
    Juan Lazcano
    Paulie Malignaggi
    Juan Urango
    Jose Luis Castillo

    If you look at when it comes to World title fights.

    Tszyu's 10 year reign of having either the IBF, WBC or WBA world Title and aswell as the only man to be Undisputed Champ.

    Compared to Hattons 3 half year reign at 140 is hardly close.

    They to me are both Great 140 Champs and both men that made our sport better for the fans.

    But Tszyu had Proper World Title Fights not the IBO or WBU ****.

    Hattons 3 best wins in my opinion are

    Tszyu at 36 years old
    Castillo at 34 years old and done
    Malignaggi in his Prime

    Tszyu's best wins are
    Gonzalez in his Prime
    Judah in his Prime
    Hurtado in his Prime

    Thats my Oppinion. Some might go Gonzalez or Hurtado but can say if these two where at 140 today they would be a serious force.

    Thats only My Opinion i dont want to upset Hatton fans as they are good.

    But when it comes to World Title fights Tszyu fought
    18 World Title Fights
    16 Wins
    2 Loses
    13 by Stoppage
    13 on foriegn soil.

    Hatton had
    9 World Title Fights
    7 Wins
    2 Loses
    4 by Stoppage
    6 on Foriegn Soil

    Theres some stats.
     
  6. skel1983

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    Hatton was 26 4 months off his 27th birthday, Hatton was not in his prime :huh Alot of people were saying he had missed the boat he was nearly 40 fights in and had not looked as good as the he was in the Tackie fight for a while.
     
  7. Watson2005

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    You sir, dont have a clue what youre talking about.

    Prime Hatton beats prime Kostya. Hatton walked straight through everything Kostya threw - and i dont even like Hatton
     
  8. skel1983

    skel1983 Guest

    Hatton never had an iron chin, where the **** do you get that from? Mcgee,Philips and Vilches had him on ***** street. Iron chin my arse. Decent yes not the best not the worst but iron chinned :rofl
     
  9. skel1983

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    Come on Hatton had Uncle Dave Paris in that fight who let him do what he wanted, it would of been different fight prime for prime in say Vegas or another neautral venue.
     
  10. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Different Ref on Nuetral Graound different result.

    Ask anyone.
    Thats knows Boxing.
     
  11. skel1983

    skel1983 Guest

    But you do?? You don't even no what youre talking about according to you Hatton wasn't even in his prime and was 25 when he fought Kosta, when he was nearly 27 had 39 fights 29 of which were 12 rounders and he had completed 12 rounds 5 times but he wasn't in his prime get the **** out of here hahaha, you go on as if he just come from 10 rounders. :patsch
     
  12. BoppaZoo

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    He was in the Prime of his life and he had to be.

    He just had wins over
    Oliviera
    Tackie
    Stewart

    Not in his Prime please.
     
  13. rusticraver

    rusticraver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh please.. Hatton is a two weight world champ and fought the absolute best at both weights. He also beat Tzyu who was young in terms of professional fights.. what did he have 30 fights before he fought hatton? and hatton had loads more wars because of his style.

    better record as well
     
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  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Is this serious?, Tszyu easily. Don't expect Hatton to add anything more after the last loss and even if he does come out of retirement to try he won't be able to do much to even compete with Tszyu's career. It's more than enough proof to you that to this day Tszyu remains Hatton's biggest win by far.