Who has the greatest legacy, Buster Douglas or Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was your mum on crack while she was pregnant with you?
     

  2. :|


    When you add up Joe's clean and effective punches landed in the fight (especially after the fourth) do you have to use your other foot?

    Eubank landed far more of the clean power shots. Joe proved he could walk into the same non-peak Eubank right hand with fair regularity.

    Joe after his good opening did nothing to obtain anything more than a draw or an arguably narrow loss. He wasn't the champ (the belt was vacant).

    Maybe you judge fights going by how loudly one fighter's fans want him to win or how immediately they cheer every effort (no matter the quality or effectiveness) or perhaps by the predisposition of the program's announcers/commentators.
     
  3. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    ahah cant believe over 40% picked Douglas. ahahahahah
     
  4. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ever considered taking a break from being a tit? Dodgy decision over Eubank? You twat.
     
  5. hambone

    hambone Member Full Member

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    BULL****!


    **** all the excuses. You talk all that **** about Tyson not being at his best but you wanna shower praise on Calzaghe for beating up old ass, shot fighters like Jones and Hopkins, who are WAAAAAY past their best? You Calfaggy fans are straight up ***s!

    Look, **** if he trained or not, Tyson was PRIME! He was 23 years he was a living, breathing ****ing KO machine! Buster found out a way to beat Tyson when everyone else thought it was impossible. If it was such a fluke and if it was all because of Tyson bad training then logic reasons that the "Buster Douglas" strategy would not have worked for Holyfeld or Lewis when they fought him. Tyson trained hard for those fights and still lost. Buster was a skillfull fighter, you are a FOOL to deny it! Buster was a victum to his own lack of discipline and thats why he went no further after Tyson. But even still, he accomplished in one fight more than ANYTHING that Calzaghe ever accomplished in his 10 year title reign of some BULL**** belt that didn't even exist during Tyson's time, or if it did no one wanted to touch it because it was a **** belt. No one gave a damn about the WBO title till Roy and Oscar held it, and THEY are one who gave it some credibilty, but before them it was a **** BELT.

    Mike Tyson was the greatest fighter of his ERA. Matter of fact, he WAS THE ERA. Buster beat the crap out of him and nothing Joe has ever done comes close to what he accomplished.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Some people are being ridiculous here. One swallow does not make a summer. Applying this logic, is Randolph Turpin one of the greatest of all-time because he beat Ray Robinson?
     
  7. Boxing Gloves

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    wow, you cant be that stupid, what fight did you watch?
    Calzaghe won clearly!
     
  8. pugilist64

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    This from the tit who scored Eubank over Calzaghe. :lol:
     
  9. :lol:

    Call of the creative TITLE/board.

    But you know it's true about the fight. The fight was close and the circumstances that Joe was expected to have a real chance at getting the vacant title even over the late-replacement Eubank. Joe wins three of the first four and after that not much. Not if you're counting effective punches. Joe did show he could eat right hands though (clearly, he didn't like such a meal as he avoided any more non-peak elite fighters until recently). However, he was shook in the final seconds of the 12th and holding.
     
  10. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...and this is the problem with that dumb, dumb word 'legacy' - a word that is so ridiculously, rampantly overused and misuderstood in boxing.

    Calzaghe has the greater achievements, is a hall of famer, and is one of the best of his era. He ranks far, far higher in the boxing greats.

    BUT, Buster Douglas has a greater 'legacy', in that the Tyson win will always be remembered and revered.

    Another example: who was the better boxer, McGuigan or Lennox Lewis? Always Lewis. but 'legacy', for whatever it's worth, would have to be McGuigan because he will always be remembered for uniting communities; LL will probably be remembered as a dominant champion. Not quite as dramatic, is it? Hell, in the UK, you could argue that Bruno has a greater legacy than Lewis.

    Legacy is about importance and memory, not greatness as a boxer. It's why Ali and what he (arguably) stood will last for perhaps centuries, even though there may be far greater heavies that show up over time.

    Presumably, the point of this thread is to suggest that Calzaghe is a lesser boxer. However, to say who has the greater legacy does not really address that suggestion - it's disingenuous, to say the very least.
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    You really need to learn how to score a fight, this is bordering on embarrasing. Even Eubank knows he lost the fight, and he's an arrogant mofo of the highest order.
     
  12. jamel

    jamel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Buster Douglas got lucky one time, he in fact should have lost by KO anyhow but due to the long count he survived to KO Tyson. As for Calzaghe I am not a big fan, and his unwillingness to face the top guys in their prime is the main problem and his many defences are mainly against eurobums. I would say Calzaghe has the better legacy as Douglas mainly lost to all the top fighters he faced. Even though Calzaghe has fought too much poor opposition to be considered as ATG he certainly has a better overall legacy than Buster Douglas.
     
  13. Eubank deals with his embarrassment as he does. Hopkins in his own way. Eubank's prime includes about 1990 and Hop's around 1992. This fight didn't occur until late 1997. Calzaghe was an unknown fighting bums when they were already established and contenders. Hard to find a great way to deal with a loss to a guy you know you'd KO 99 out of a 100 if you could have shaved a few years off of your odometer so you wouldn't have been exhausted.
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I don't really understand what the hell you are talking about here, as I was referring to your ability, or rather inability to score a fight. How you might find that for Eubank I do not know. It does not bode well for you, this was a simple fight to score.

    Yeah, KO 99 times out of a hundred I'm sure thats no exaggeration.
     
  15. Oh, real slight exaggeration but it motivates your :| & :smh huh?