Who Has The More Impressive Resume? Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch Or Mikkel Kessler?

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Who Has The More Impressive Resume? Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch Or Mikkel Kessler?

Poll closed Mar 5, 2020.
  1. Sergey Alexandrovich Kovalev

    40.7%
  2. Carl Martin Froch

    53.7%
  3. Mikkel Kessler

    5.6%
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  1. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew it...
     
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  2. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Also I was shouting from the rooftops for anyone that would listen that Bute would give Froch a boxing lesson. How wrong was I :duh
     
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  3. Special one

    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    Looks like I'm in agreement with the majority so far.....

    Froch by a long way and when you consider just how many of those fights were back to back with no let up, it only adds weight to this being the case! PS: The Bute and Groves II wins are worth way more than a 6 or 7 out of 10 rating!!
     
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  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Froch when it comes to names. But I prefer Kovalev when it comes to performances. Although if you give Kov the first Ward fight, which I think was a clear win for him, then it’s probably him on names alone too.
     
  5. Dario Argento

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    Kovalev actually beat Ward, so that distinguishes him from Froch big time.
     
  6. Odins beard

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    Excellent breakdown.
     
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  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Great thread. Kessler at his peak was a beast .. but Kovalev Trumps him IMO More depth.. Froch has a GREAT resume .. I'll have to think it over a little bit deeper first but considering a lot of Carl's wins like Taylor, Abraham, Johnson, Pascal etc had much better careers in a different weight class than SMW I'd edge towards Kovalev..
     
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  8. Odins beard

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    1. Kovalev
    2. Froch
    3. Kessler

    Although prime v prime Kessler owns Frochs soul.

    Kovalevs resume is vastly underrated by people with agendas.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Ward weighed 186bs on the night for his first fight at full LHW and he hit the scales at 175 on the dot for the official weigh ins for all 5 of his fights at LHW, not even a quarter of a pound under. 175 on the dot x 5

    He weighed at least 182 on the night for his last fight at SMW against Edwin Rodriguez. That was back in December 2013.

    ''My last two opponents outweighed me by about 8-10lbs on fight night. Edwin Rodriguez was over 190.. like 192, 193. Paul Smith was 192, 193''

    Paul Smith tried to negotiate a catchweight of 170 but Ward and his team wouldn't have any of it.

    Andre Ward

    ''I'm disappointed with Paul," he told Sky Sports News HQ. "I heard last night that as of yesterday morning he was eight pounds over. You've got to realize in negotiations, my team said 172 and he fought to have it at 170. And he comes in four pounds overweight. It's very unprofessional.''

    ''75 isn't easy to make''

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    186lbs is Kovalev's 3rd highest recorded fight night weight.

    Kovalev 181 - Sillakh 185
    Kovalev 183 - Agnew 187
    Kovalev 185 - Caparello 185
    Kovalev 188 - Hopkins 182
    Kovalev 189 - Pascal 185
    Kovalev 183.5 - Mohammedi 180.5
    Kovalev 186 - Pascal 185
    Kovalev 185 - Alvarez 187 (Alvarez's trainer said they were actually 192)

    And Kovalev said he weighed under 180 for the rematch against Alvarez.
     
  10. elbonzoseco

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    Where did I base my rating on that statement? I did not. Also IMO Kovalev did beat him the first time around and I think both were a little past their best at that point.
     
  11. drenlou

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    Froch
    Kovalev
    Kessler

    In that order.
     
  12. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kessler from the first half of the Calzaghe fight wipes the floor with Froch and most of his opponents. Give major props for Froch destroying Bute who was a very highly skilled boxer (chinny at times), Ward didn't want any part of Bute and his slick style.

    The one fight we didn't get but I would have really liked to see is Kessler vs Bute, could have happened when Calzaghe moved up. Two great boxers, Kessler is ineffective going backwards but both can bang and draw crowds in their home turf. Don't think Kessler got much recognition outside of Europe because he was finding decent Euro opponents and was a good draw. By the way Kesslers, mum is from England, should just claim him as British to add to the top line of 168 fighters Britain had produced. He fought in Wales and England too.
     
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Well... if youre not ranking people based a large part on resume, which, while subjective, is the most objectively measurable aspect of a fighter, out of an array of subjectively judged criteria, and youre not basing his ranking on head to head hierarchies... then what criteria are you using to rank fighters?
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    @CST80

    It's clearly and obviously Kovalev. Some I suspect are just ignorant and looking at things too black and white and automatically and reflexively jump towards "but Froch has a better resume". Yet these people are ignoring all nuance and have so little refinement in their thinking. For others, it's just plain bias and dislike towards Kovalev. I've tried reasoning with these people over the last few days about Kovalev and his career, you can't do it with them. They turn off their brains, blurt out something like, but he lost to Ward twice (ignoring any semblance of critical thinking or context whatsoever), and then go on trashing him some more.

    Ironically many of these people are big fans of Andre Ward, who is another great fighter himself. Yet if you trash the guy who is by far Ward's best win than is Ward really a great fighter? Well, not really. They say, Ward won the first fight anyways, Kovalev receives no credit there, he's barely a HOF'er if that. Not only are they ignoring that Kovalev won the fight according to most people with a brain, they are saying Kovalev should receive no credit for pushing Ward to the limit and beating him in the eyes of most. If no credit can be given to the defeated fighter then the winner can only receive very little credit too. The win is only as good as the defeated man.

    It's absurd, it's astonishing. The total lack of intelligence or clarity in these people.

    Kovalev is obviously the best fighter of these 3. Froch may have an equal or slightly better resume on paper if just going off of the wins and official wins. But to ignore any sense of context here like the unofficial Ward win or manner in which he was so much more dominant than Froch was in his prime is disingenuous to say the least.

    Can't say I'm surprised though.
     
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  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ward has fought Kessler, Froch and Kovalev. Yet for some reason the Kovalev fights are considered far and away the defining fights of his career?

    Why is that?

    It's because Kovalev is by far the toughest assignment of the 3 fighters.

    It's not like Kessler and Froch are as difficult to deal with in the ring as Kovalev. They clearly present far lesser challenges to the opposition than Kovalev does.
     
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