Who has Wlad has faced that has better speed, movement and power than Haye?

movement?

Haye is not exactly the most coordinated boxer. In fact he is ****ing terrible. He is like a fish out of water. Did you see round 3 when Audley is ready to be taken out and not even throwing back and Haye almost falls over on his own doing and smothers his own punches flailing around? If he wasnt ****ing ******ed he would back up and give him self space and wait for the right shot.

 

Personally, I think Vitali is past his best and at 39 years old he may be ripe for the taking. If I was Haye I'd try to go for Vitali. I think this past-prime version of Vitali is more susceptible to a fast, hit-and-run style fighter. Haye just has to manage to dodge the 800 or so punches that Vitali will throw at him. Very tough challenge but IMO more probably than evading Wlad's jabs and straight rights.

I'd give Haye a 30% chance against this old version of Vitali and maybe a 20% chance against Wlad. That means a decent chance but by no means a favorite.

 

Movement? :roflatsch

What movement? You mean the back peddling he did against Valuev?

 

Don't you live in Finland? Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

 

Is that a joke? I seriously hope you are joking :-(

 

No. I'm not joking at all, for the record.

 

haye has the speed and reach to get off.

that spells trouble for wladimir.

only a matter of time before haye lands the big bomb.

make haye a big favourite meself.

can understand the vastly differing opinions on the fight though.

a fascinating match up if there ever was one. :yep

 

:good

 

:rofl

 

Funny things is Haye lost a lot of effective speed when he moved up, bulked up WAY to much, we all know about his shaky chin issues. His balance and footwork is terrible for a guy only 215 is pounds, Eddie Chambers is the closest to Haye minus the power which of course is SOOOOO overrated, he's never knocked any heavy unconscious which I would consider a devastating puncher at heavy. He can't finish any better than my grandma, he totally looses his composure, Vitally is ALL wrong for Haye, he will counter and KO him quick, even a 'Faded' Vitali, you know the guy who hasn't lost 2 rounds since his comeback? Faded? Whatever. The only real chance he has is against Wlad, and Wlad is very quick, excellent accuracy, power, and exceptional footwork for a guy his size. I would look like Pac's speed against Ruiz or Valuev, or Audrey. The Hayeniacts just never seem to be able to put his performances into perspective. And for the other Hayehuggers, I don't want to hear about Wlad fighting Chisora. You know Vitali fought Briggs (Who Haye wouldn't have fought him at 60 for fear of getting KO'd), etc. Fact is Wlad has earned it, they have cleaned out the dam division, what has Haye done? Beaten guys with barely a pulse? Get real people....

 

You made sense until you mentioned Briggs. An asthmatic that was only just ranked inside the top 100 when he fought vitali.

 

I'm not saying Briggs was a top ten contender, but the fact is if nothing else, the guy could punch and was always a threat and the same can't be said for the fighters Haye has fought up to this point.

 

Chambers is faster than Haye and would beat him. Vitali or Vlad is faster than Haye and they will knock him out if Haye ever gets the nerve to get into a right with either of them.

 

Get a grip you daft *******

Haye would knock the **** out of this current Briggs, it wouldn't go past 3 Rounds

 

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Another halfwit.