Who hasn't dropped Joshua?

I keep hearing all this talk about Wilder generating his power from Windmilling. Have the people saying this actually spent more than a day in boxing gyms. You generate the best leverage and punch power from punching with form.

If Mike tyson windmilled, do you think he would punch with thesame velocity and force, Ofcourse not. I can assure you that wilders windmill punches are not as strong as his text book straight right hand. Thats part of the reason he mostly does it when his opponent is hurt. Wilder is actually a natural fighter as opposed to joshua, this is clear from the way he goes bezerk when he smells blood.

 

Bcause Joshua can't finish guys with a 100% knockout rate, what makes Wilder more "natural" again as opposed
to Joshua ?

 

Don't get angry over femi it's not worth it.

 

Kelvin price and Liakhovic huh? A worshed up bum and over the hill Liakhovick coming out of a 3 year retirement.....thats your evidence. Man gtfoh lol.

 

I love this.....Wilder/Joshua potential bout may get to Pac/Floyd levels of insanity.
Let it marinate for a year, then we'll see.

 

I misread your post, thought you'd specifically mentioned the windmill as opposed to his straight right.

 

Well basically to answer your question, its simple really. Joshua wins fights on mostly size and then power second, he is bigger and stronger than 99.999% of his opponents. This is why i think that Wach would be a very difficult fight for joshua because for once he will be the weaker and smaller boxer.

Wilders form is more natural. When he is in the ring he fights instinctively, this is why he is more natural. Joshua bulldozes his way through and is rigid in his stance and movements, he is not a natural fighter like Wilder. Now being a natural fighter does not mean you will be a better boxer, otherwise mexican brawlers like Rios would be dominating the sport. Its Wilders natural athletiscm that compliments his natural fighting instincts and questionable boxing skills, and this is why he will be a handful for anyone in the heavy weight division.

To me Wilder is like a reincarnation of Jack Johnson, looking at grainy footage from the early 1900's Johnson was not skilled at all in terms of boxing ability and was winning fights because he was bigger, stronger, longer and faster than his opponents at the time.

 

No possibility that one of them will lose while they wait for the right time?

 

Wach would have no chance against Anthony Joshua, you forgot that AJ already fought against Dominic Breazeale
who is bigger and taller than him and Breazeale had no chance.

Anthony Joshua doesn't even use his height and reach advantage to win his fights, he wants to fight from the
mid-range and the inside.

Deontay Wilder uses his reach advantage in his fights, he can't fight from the inside, Wilder uses his height and
reach advantage definitely more to his advantage than AJ does.

If AJ would be 6ft 4, he would be still dangerous, it would make no difference, if Wilder would be 6ft 4, we wouldn't talk about him on this forum.

 

The notion that people are genuinely unsure if Joshua would 'handle' Wilder is mystifying to me.

AJ wins inside 2 rounds.

 

Dude why are you so angry? Did the Lifetime Network go off the air last night while you were watching your favorite David Charvet movie?

 

Open your mind, your thinking too narrow. What do you mean that Joshua doesnt use his reach and height advantage. This statement is asinine on so many levels. Unless Joshua bobs and weaves like Mike Tyson to get into range, then ofcourse he uses height and reach advantage. However, my comment on his size was strictly to do with mass and strength. He came in at 251 lbs against Wlad for this very reason. At that size, he was clearly too strong for Wlad to clinch and this is why every time Joshua got inside he destroyed Klitschko.

Are you really comparing Breazeale to Wach. Wach's Chin is granite and Breazeales is average at best. Also, Breazeale is about 260-270 lbs and looks soft while Wach weighs thesame and is very solid. Wach is far stronger and infinitely a better opponent than Brezeale. Do you think that Whyte would have avoided a fight with Brezeale as he did with Wach.

You are right with one thing, Deontay does know how to use his reach advantage but you need to watch more of his fights if you think he cannnot fight on the inside. Look at what Wilder did to the smaller Duhapas on the inside when they fought, Wilder completely dominated on the inside when up close.

As for 'what ifs'. I actually believe that Joshua would suffer more than Wilder if they were both 6 ft 4 inches. Atleast wilder still has the fast feet and one punch knock out power but a very stiff Joshua at 6 ft 4 would have been jabbed and grabbed by Klitschko and be a much easier target for punches. Added to the fact that Joshua is worse at slipping punches than Wilder and your proposition seems to have backfired.

 

Wach is a walking punching bag and Breazeale has a good chin. I definitely rate Breazeale above Wach.

Wilder didn't fight from the inside against Duhaupas, i have seen the fight, what are you talking about ?
He threw a couple of punches from the inside before the ref stopped the fight but that was not good inside
fighting, by the way, Duhaupas is not even a top 10 heavyweight.

Whyte didn't avoid a fight with Wach because he was scared, he avoided it because he seems to have better
options.

Anthony Joshua would definitely not suffer more if both were only 6ft 4 and Wilder doesn't even hit harder
than AJ, he concentrates more on a single big punch because he doesn't have the ability to land combinations
in the way that Anthony Joshua does.

Watch the fight with Wlad again, especially the 6th round if you think that Wilder who actually has no defence
at all is better at slipping punches than Anthony Joshua.

I honestly think you are drunk, you can't be serious.

 

Mate, you cant honestly believe that joshua hits harder than wilder. Joshua landed cleanly on Wlad with devastating effects but the fact is that Wlad stood up and was still ready for more, he might have finished the fight too if it wasnt for the ref jumping in.

Its debatable whether Breazile is better or worse than Wach but styles make fights and Wach with his granite chin would give Joshua serious problems that Breazile never even showed a glimpse of doing.

Wach went the distance with a prime Wlad, eating right hands that would have put Joshua to sleep and would have gone the distance with PEDvetkin too if not for a cut that opened his eyes and causes the stoppage. Izu Ungonoh wouldnt even drop Wach once let alone be on the verge of knocking him out like he did with Breazel until he gassed out.

Joshua slipped telegraphed left hooks from Klitschko that could be seen from a mile away. Litschko really disappointed me that night. For someone with so many fights, he was just head hunting withought trying to set up his punches, go to the body or even feint.

Whyte definitely pulled out because he was not confident in winning. Thesame reason Tyson fury pulled out of fighting Ustinov and Hughie pulled out of fighting parker.

See 18:34 in this video for Wilder doing good work on the inside. He could do this for an entire fight with his great stamina but to get more leverage on his right hand, he chooses to fight from range.#

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Every top 10 fighter could do that against a walking punching bag like Duhaupas, i can guarantee you if Wilder
would try the same with Anthony Joshua, he would get knocked out cold.

Wlad stood up but he was clearly done, he couldn't defend himself anymore, the stoppage was on point.

Deontay Wilder struggled to knock Eric Molina out whereas Joshua obliterated him in 3 rounds.

Deontay Wilder also couldn't knock Bermane Stiverne out, do you really think that AJ wouldn't have knocked
him out with that amount of clean punches Deontay Wilder was landing in 12 rounds ?