Who Hates Sam Peter's Hammerpunch To The Head !!!

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    most of those guys are just ducking, you act as if they're turning around big time.....
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm going to be honest here, all nuthugging aside, Peter does foul occasionally, but not on purpose, just like Tyson when he used to throw his hooks, sometimes the forearm would catch you more than the fist, or Holyfield leaning in with his head, Peter is just like every other fighter out there, no different. I think if you want to start taking points off Peter, then his oppenents should have the same done to them, like when Mccline punched on the break, or when he butted him on the inside.

    I just think People are over hating on Peter for whatever reason, the guy is just trying to go out there and knock his oppenent out, isnt that what is missing in the division, isnt that what we complain about not seeing enough of? Peter might not be the most techniquellly sound, but at least he aint afraid to mix it up with his oppenent and go for that knockout if it's there, give the guy a break.
     
  3. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It's just not as simple as turning away and running. Think about it. Say you and I were in the ring and me being a bit taller, I decide to lock your left arm up in close and turn my head away from your right hand. How would you approach hitting me? Body shot? How could you hit my body if you can't find a spot. You'd have to hit me in the kidney which is also considered illegal. Watch Waldo do this constantly against Sam. As well as several other guys who have done it.

    Lots of guys have just straight up ran from Sam Peter. I'm talking turned and looked away like Ruiz did to Tua. For Sam at that point he has to make a decision whether he's going to continue punching or not. Some refs will see what his opponents are doing and allow it, while others who have been seduced over the weeks into believing Sam is the only one who commits fouls, won't.

    It's become part of the game now when fighting Sam Peter. You ***** for several weeks to the athletic commisson about Sam Peter being a fouling fighter. Then when the fight is on you do whatever neccessary to lure him into punching you in the back of the head. Whether that be as obvious as turning your back or as subtle as locking up his left arm and turning away from his right. It's really up to how good the boxer is who is doing it. In either case, it's a ploy. A risky ploy that his opponents are employing to win the favor of the ref and possible point deductions.

    This in close grabbing the left and turning away from the right is the sort of **** that brings about punches behind the head. Both are illegal but the only way to get rid of the second one is to get rid of the first one, first. Stop the grabbing and the turning away and you stop the punches behind the head.
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Of course he fouls at times. Nobody is perfect. But this has become a game now. Everyone tries to get Sam on points that get in the ring with him. And as a referee you had better be prepared to stop the excessive clinching and armlocks if you plan on taking points for punches behind the head. They go hand in hand and I'd only expect that sort of biased approach to come from somewhere like Germany.

    Also any sort of offering of the back, whether that be bending over, or turning, is illegal. You cannot give your opponent nothing but your back. Doesn't matter if you are running or not. Punches are meant to be blocked or slipped. Not discouraged because the opponent only has your back in view. Some refs simply realise this so they don't penalize guys who take advantage of the shot offered to them.
     
  5. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, It a contact sport, fouls happen, I dare anybody to find me one Hockey or Football game where no fouls/penalities occured, your not going to find one. Peter's style is a little wild at times, but if you dont put your head down or turn your back, it's impossible for him to catch you behind the back of the head, even Manny said the punches he caught Wlad with were fair and that he had no complaint with them, yet all the Peter haters still have a problem, I dont about you Ambition Def, but I will take Manny's professional opinion over theres anyday.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Well..:lol:

    Keep in mind we are talking about the same dumb assholes who scoff and say "Ho ho Maskaev rocked Peter" when infact he never did. If they had two eyes in their head and a look at the replay this was quite evident. Instead of listening to Jim Lampley plant his foot in his mouth time and time again while taking it as gospel maybe they'd take a moment to turn off the HBO juice and look at the video.
     
  7. caballo

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    I can't remember the opponent, but Rocky Marciano won a big fight with a hammerpunch to the head, took his opponent out with it. Rocky's nose had been split open in the fight. I mean, SPLIT OPEN. It was one of those ugly gashes where the skin is just widely separated. Anyway, the ref told Rocky he was giving him one more round then he was going to stop it. Rocky went out in that round and tried a combo which didn't connect. He looked kind of flummoxed for a moment, and then decided to just bop the guy on the top of the head with a closed fist sideways like a hammer. His opponent hit the canvas, end of fight.
     
  8. Punisher33

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    Yeah I know, I was hoping that some of the haters would give Peter some props, he did what everyone wanted him to do, knocked his man out, yet even more complaints than before, the guy cant win. I think even if he knocked out Wlad cold in the 1st round, people would find some way to find fault in it, grant it Peter wasnt perfect, but anyone that has watched the division for the last 5 years, he's better than most of them and he always comes to fight, and is not afraid of going toe to toe with oppenent, unlike Wlad who seems to still be gun shy for whatever reason.
     
  9. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post! Its all accurate & true. Just might change my outlook on Sam, but given the opportunity, I hope Golota knocks him stiff as a board.

    :bbb
     
  10. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont blame you, thats your boy, you got to show your support.:good
     
  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter's opponents need to bring the "rabbit punch issue" up with the Commission, the ref, and the officials before the fight.....even get Max Kellerman on their case too.

    It is the job of the fighter's management and corner to protect their fighter from getting hurt during the fight via flagrant fouls.
     
  12. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It's primarily the job of the fighter to protect himself at all times. If you offer your opponent the back of your head then you obviously are not doing a very good job of protecting yourself. Infact it appears as though you are asking for it!

    Why do you think they haven't taken Sam's stray punches as serious as Golota's infamous low blows? One noteworthy difference here. Fighters can't hide their balls in a fight. But they most certainly can avoid offering their opponent their vunerable backside.
     
  13. Rudolph

    Rudolph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Peter's illegal rabbit punching is a direct result of his poor punching technique. He's terrible.
     
  14. Relentless

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    does peter even know how to throw a straight punch?
     
  15. Tunney5

    Tunney5 Active Member Full Member

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    :yep Agreed. Before his next fight, something needs to be done about it! We don't want another fighter to becomr disabled like McClellan or damaged like Mesi from a rabbit punch.

    I doubt if Peter would win many fights without his rabbit punches though.