Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Skittlez, Sep 30, 2012.


  1. Skittlez

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    That is a great criteria for ranking.

    Abilities-Resume




    Achievements/ dominance/streaks.

    I agree. Abilities and resume should always be much higher than streaks and stats.
     
  2. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Achievements are part of what a resume is, is it not? And dominance should be part of what abilities are, since dominating would speak to your ability IMO
     
  3. rorschach51

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    You cannot consider Lacy a good win, when he did absolutely nothing up to that point. He had no credentials or names on his resume, all his hype was "what he could possibly be" talk.

    Same reason no one, talks about David Reid as a big win for Felix Trinidad. He was a undefeated champion (when they fought) and Olympic gold medalist, but was a bust just like Lacy. And when people talk about Felix's best wins you never see his name mentioned, because he was a hype job again just like Lacy, and both wins meant very little to both fighters...Well at least to Trinidad it didn't mean much, but that guy wasn't afraid to fight anybody, so he had many better names on his list of best wins.
     
  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    These poll results are ****ing disgraceful, they only real debate here is between Whitaker, Lewis & Holyfield. That Pacquiao has so many votes, really speaks to the overall blind fanboyism of this forum. I mean hell I'm neutral in the whole Manny/Floyd debate, as I am a fan of both fighters, but at least Mayweather fans for the most part are being realistic here, and not just voting for their guy because he's a option on the list.

    Yeah Manny has fought a lot of names, but he made a lot of the bigger names fight him while they were not at their best, by making them meet a catchweight demand to fight him. You didn't see Pea demanding seated champions shave off pounds from their comfortable weight to fight him. Or Evander (a blown up CW) make Bowe or Foreman meet him closer to the 200 pound mark. Really it's just silly, fighting champions for their belts but making them drain to do it, and his fans are still going to consider those great wins on Pacquiao's resume...Come on guys, there have been quite a few other special fighters in the past 25 years who have achieved greatness besides Manny Pacquiao. And a lot of them did it straight-up, they didn't have to make silly weight cutting demands of their opponents to handicap them.

    I've managed to stay neutral in all this nonsense, but overwhelmingly voting Pacquiao to have the greatest resume of the past 25 years is the last straw for me. Flame me all you want but this Pacquiao fanboy mess is a bunch of bull****.
     
  5. silenc

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    Achievements - becoming oldest boxing champion (Hopkins).
    Dominance - holding title for long time (Ottke).
    Streaks - been undefeated for 90 professional fights (JCC).
    Resume - names you have been beaten.
     
  6. KubratPuluv

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    Lewis, followed by Pee.
     
  7. Skittlez

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    Dominance part is highly debatable. Roy Jones Jr avoided 95% of the top MW-SMW during his MW-SMW Reign. Could he have beaten Eubank? Benn? Gerald? Jackson? Ya, he probably could have. But we will never know.

    The issue with this is he never fought guys similar to them so we can accurately access what could have happened. Name a puncher he fought at MW-SMW that could have hurted him as much as Benn-Eubank-Jackson or Mccellan.

    Not one of those four guys were as good as Roy, but all four of those were monster punchers and Benn during the early-mid 90's would have kept coming for 12 rounds or until he got knocked out. Roy never fought anyone like that.

    So dominance is deceptive.
     
  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It's Jones' light heavyweight reign that makes him look impressive, on top of those "hardly breaking a sweat" victories over two ATG's Hopkins and Tony.

    :lol: Jackson would have been KO'd in a couple rounds. I wish GMan and Benn got their shot but unfortunately G got beaten into a pulp and Benn was never the same after that.
     
  9. Skittlez

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    I already explained the Hopkins win.

    You watch a lot of boxing, you can not believe they were at the 'same stage' of their respective careers. Roy Jones relied on his freakish reflexes, athleticism, and youth. His blinding speed and combinations. That is what made ROY Jones. If you watched that version of young Roy and compare it to Prime Roy, it's mostly the same.

    Bernard Hopkins relied on his variety of tricks, his cunning, and his experience. Along with to a extend his reflexes and power. That being said, much of what Bernard relied on came with age and came with more and more fights.

    People would use the excuse 'OH WELL Bernard was much faster and more explosive than'' .. Lol well that version of Bernard would have gotten destroyed by Prime Bernard in the late 90's early 2000's.

    In other words, it was a very Green Bernard vs a Roy Jones who just relied on his athleticism and speed anyways. Prime Bernard fought totally different.
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Why was Hopkins so green? He had over 100 amateur bouts and 22 or something Pro bouts. Trinidad and Floyd didn't have that many amateur bouts, among others.

    Prime Bernard did fight different, but that doesn't mean he'd have beaten Roy. Which is why he didn't move to light heavyweight to rematch him until Roy was shot to hell.
     
  11. Skittlez

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    Ya that was his bad, he could have been the first to chin check Roy if he took Tarver's place. Bernard ****ed that one up.
     
  12. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    It was clear as day a duck by Hopkins, as soon as Roy gets checked into oblivion, Hopkins moves up, when years before Roy was calling him up for the fight :-(
     
  13. Skittlez

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    Ya.. I agree. I tried to like Roy . Except that for some reason his knock outs is always funny.

    Like lol it's hard to explain, but all those years of dancing and mocking Vinny P, and dozens of other inferior fighters seem to have caught up with him and karma and now he's getting knocked into the next dimension.
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

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    Evander Holyfield or Lennox Lewis.
     
  15. ripcity

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    I grade resume on wins over quality opposition + lack of losses However if this was just about fights against quality opposition. De La Hoya would be my answer, but all things considered my real answer is Mayweather.