Who have the GREATEST RESUME of the last 25 years?

Minus the broken hand/wrist?

And Roy looked nothing like he did at 168.. That fight though a chess match, Roy was hurt and holding a lot back... The announcers were even making comments about it. He was perfectly fine with just doing enough to win a decision in that one.

 

Yeah, where was this much improved unbeatable master fighter? Somewhere in between Trinidad and Taylor.:huh

Why did Hopkins look like a genius against Pavlik but look like **** against Taylor? Pavlik beat Taylor? weird. Why did he look like a genius against Tarver but **** against Calzaghe?

The same would go in 2002, he would have looked genius against Trinidad, but **** against Jones.

ANY pre HW version of Roy beats ANY version of Hopkins.. and it is nice that he does have the one handed H2H win in their physical primes to gauge how it probably would have went.

 

The Hopkins that fought Roy the first time didn't have his power? He somehow got more power in between Jones and Johnson, but lost it before Trinidad?:huh

And yes, Hopkins looked like **** vs. Calzaghe, that fight is so hard to watch, I don't care how close it was, Hopkins fought super dirty, and the fake low blows sucked ass. He also looked like **** against shot Roy, I think the ref should have started counting Hopkins out once or twice for the bull****.

Pre HW Roy beats Hopkins every time... For one he already did once (with a broken wrist/hand) and for two, Hopkins had a chance to redeem himself in 02 but didn't want 40% and an ass whipping.

 

Roy was the bigger name at the time, the p4p best, and already held a win over Hopkins.. 60-40 was perfectly fair, Hopkins should have taken it. They are both very stubborn though.

And no, if Hopkins agreed to 60-40 Roy would have him, you can bet on that.

 

**** that, It is was not Roy's job to meet in the middle, you come to the champ.. This would have been a title fight, And Hopkins was a natural LHW anyway. ROY IS NOT THAT MUCH LARGER OF A MAN THAN HOPKINS.

Hopkins seemed fine to go up to "190" to fight Tarver, but going up to fight Roy was clearly out of the question? Why do you think that is? Another case of someone hesitant to fight a prime Roy..

 

Again, I am talking pre Ruiz Jones, I don't care what happened after Roy moved down from HW, he wasn't the same fighter after that point.

 

Hopkins was fine to move up to face Tarver, why was that? Tarver was even bigger than Roy..

The weight excuse is bull****, Hopkins didn't want that version of Roy.:deal

 

Oscar most definitely should have made this list resume wise....he's fought everybody!

 

You are talking 4 years later.... And Hopkins started his career at LHW anyway!!!

The fact is, he didn't want to move up to fight that version of Roy, but was more than happy to move up 4 years later and fight an even bigger Tarver. It is bull****...

Hopkins wanted no part of that Roy, at that time at, that weight... fact.:deal

Challenge the champ, at his weight for his title, for 60-40, or stfu!

 

You use an Floyd as an example? He isn't known as the biggest risk taker...

Like I said, Hopkins was more than happy to move up 2 weights and face Tarver, but moving up 2 weights to face Jones clearly was too much for him..

Moving up weights, and taking champs belts away from them are how legends are made..:deal

Roy had everything to lose in that fight, it was fair for him to stay at his weight and defend his belt. If Hopkins moved up and lost, so what? You moved up and fought Roy Jones, and lost again.. And for Roy, he just did what everyone expected of him, beat Hopkins..

Now if Hopkins won, it would have been one of the greatest wins of all time, it would have been a career defining moment, and sealed his place as one of the very best.. He had EVERYTHING to gain, take the 60-40 and give it a shot.

 

And did you just compare the size difference of Floyd and Winky to Hopkins and Roy?atsch

Hopkins and Jones have been in the ring twice together, and the size difference wasn't really even visible.. Again.. ROY IS NOT THAT MUCH BIGGER THAN HOPKINS!!!!!

 

Has Joe ever had to deal with a fighter that is not only faster than him but much more powerful? Joe has never, EVER, fought a fighter the caliber of a prime Roy.. But Roy has fought fighters on Calzaghe's level.

I would be much more worried about how Calzaghe would deal against a prime ATG, we have already seen how Jones handles it.

 

Dude, I am starting to believe you are not that familiar with Jones' career.. The pressuring him was tried, time and time again, but it was not successful because his opponents would take too much punishment, and couldn't keep it up very long.. They had to chose, keep up the pressure and get knocked out, or back up and fight to survive.

Calzaghe was durable, ok.. against who? Did they have the speed and power of Jones? Calzaghe wasn't that hard to hit, he had a hit and be hit style, we know he would have taken some huge bombs from Roy at some point, what we don't know is how he would have dealt with that, because he was never up against it.