Who here generally APPROVES of the UFC business model???

At the end of the day, I'm very happy that UFC work in a way where nobody's ducking anybody and we mostly get to see the best possible matches. It annoys me when people start whining about the underpaid but nobody else seems to complain and the more money you're giving fighters the more problems will arise in the longrun. It makes me wonder why fighters like Fedor never fought in the UFC. People always say good on him and stuff but UFC don't even offer slave contracts, they seem pretty fair with that stuff, so I don't quite understand how that didn't work out.

The only bad thing is the gulf in popularity with anywhere else when Strikeforce folds. If they get cut from the UFC, they're basically have no choice but go to the Indys in wrestling terms. There's nowhere else, and Japan's MMA is absolutely dead at this point. I wouldn't mind so much if they branched out in size and shows. If you're gonna be a monopoly, then build a bigger roof.

 

I'm a fan and an advocate. The system isn't flawless but then neither is any sporting system that I can think of. I'm sure every fan has it's issue. I don't mind flaws. What I mind is flaws on the scale of boxing where it often just seems to be corrupt and run by dictators.

 

- can be a good thing but many very good fighters a re excluded if they choose not to commit to one promo, so effectively there is a bit more negative

- Some of the time yes, often?

- Some of the time, yes

- There are some excellent undercard fights one in a while, but you also get the brit-**** undercards as well when they can get away with it

- Well this really goes with any international business no?

- I love the fight and win bonuses definitely works. The fighter salaries have some really weird **** going on (400K for old Tito?)




So as for the question in the title, their business model is one of the best in sports history, looking at how far they have come and the strong position that they are in, but good business model does not always mean good for fans.

 

love it. not perfect but no system ever will be.

 

Sounds pretty alright to me.

 

Just imagine how good boxing would be under a similar system. Imagine a 12 fight boxing card with ALL fights being pretty even fights with the top 2 or 3 fights either championship or top level contenders. It would be amazing.

 

Its kinda why people watch the whole UFC card but in boxing you often just watch the main event cuz you know the rest of the card is shite

 

Personally I hate ventures which make the CEO and shareholders millions while the fighters earn a relative pittance. We pay to see the fighters, they are the ones risking it all and should be paid accordingly.
Undercard fighters on $8k? Can they even afford to train?
In boxing with similar PPV numbers we can see what money is available to the combatants, the difference btw this and headliners on a UFC card is astounding. Remember Sonnens valiant attempt at Silvas crown... $40k
Also the bonus award system stinks, Dana playing Caesar dishing them out on a whim, he awarded a bonus for beating on someone with speedo's last time out, pathetic. That bonus was worth half a dozen lower tier pay-cheques:barf
So its a **** system... but I watch... the hypocrisy:verysad:yep

 

it has it's issues, but, it's much better than boxing's b/s

 

I love it! Much better than Boxings. More like the other big sports than boxing is.

 

Now we're talking :thumbsup

 

Yeah, imagine Arum, Shaw, Oscar, King or Sauerland having almost total control of the sport. That would be awesome.

 

Are we talking about fantasy land where Dana White and the Fertitas are going to take over boxing? Sure, that'd be great. For all of the **** that people talk about Dana (myself included), Zuffa Inc. is great at giving MMA fans what they want.

If we're talking about one of the boxing promotions being as dominant as Zuffa is in MMA, I think that would be disastrous. What if Top Rank were the only promotion that the majority of fight fans watched, and the fighters were competing for the Bob Arum world title in every weight classes? You know what kind of **** that old, spiteful crook would pull with that kind of power? You think he'd have any interest in giving a fighter who wouldn't be a good draw in the position to fight for one of his titles? You think he wouldn't be over manufacturing a title run for a fraud like JCC Jr. just to milk his nationality and his old man's name? You really think that there wouldn't be a shitload more elite level fighters relegated to lower shows and obscurity because of disputes with the one big promotion than there are now in MMA?

It's a great fantasy to think about boxing being more like MMA, but the idiots who run it would probably **** things up even worse.


Off topic (sort of), you don't honestly believe that Mayweather/Pac is never going to happen, do you? It should be clear to everyone who isn't totally naive that both sides are going to milk this thing and get as many paydays as possible for lesser fights before the big one happens. There's no way that that fight doesn't come off in the next 2 years. Way too much money is at stake for all of the parties involved.