Who here seriously inside of them actualy beleive Ricky stand a chance??

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  1. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    good argument.....i still think he is resting jsut as much as it is part of his offense because i have seen him hold and not throw anything worthwhile or not throw at all before the ref breaks it up..but your point is understandable.
     
  2. nulty

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    I give Hatton a good chance in fact I'll be betting on him. PBF's punch output recently is way to low to bother Ricky. Hatton will be relentless for 12 rounds. DLH would have clearly beat PBF if he hadn't gassed in the championship rounds. Now DLH used his superior jab to get inside on Floyd, Hatton doesn't have that jab but his height, speed and movement can get him past PBFs jab. Also Hatton won't be fighting in 15-20 second bursts like Oscar did.

    Hatton will bust him up on the inside and take the win.
     
  3. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    could be...im a resonable man..this could very well be true but....PBF doesnt underestimate his opponents....he may talk a big game but trust he knows completely of what Hatton's strengths are....PBF is a true student..no matter how much you dislike him....he knows what he is doing in that ring and adapts...can hatton adapt to PBF's awkwardness? Can he resort to another gameplan besides bullying in and enforcing his will when PBF maneuvers away from such tactics? We have seen PBF adjust....i dont think we have seen Hatton adjust....i say this because he couldnt adjust against Collazo and i know you say he is different but you still can adjust and thats something i have yet to see him do...BUT in his defense he really hasnt had to...which could be a plus or minus,
     
  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think its usually one or the other, when hes using it to be offensive, its probably more draining on him than fighting from any other position, but when he uses it to hang on, it gives him a breather, I was just trying to explain how the offensive side of it works.:good
     
  5. BeaverDan

    BeaverDan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I believe Hatton has a decent chance.

    Fact is neither fighter has fought anybody like their opponent before. People say Floyd fought Castillo but Castillo isn't Hatton. Both fighters will be studying tapes, but on a tape it isn't YOU fighting them and getting hit in the face and the guts.

    People who say Ricky can't come forward eating shots for 12 rounds shouldn't ignore that Floyd can't run backwards THROWING shots for 12 rounds.

    I have only seen 4 or 5 Floyd fights but 1 thing I noticed most of all is that he inevitably ends up with his back against the ropes at some stages of the fight. That's perfect for Hatton because it will allow him to stand off Floyd and throw a lot of shots from the hip, which are very effective. On those situations I think Hatton will be throwing more than Floyd, but Floyd seems to block, roll and parry shots do damn well.

    If the fight goes the distance then it's a Mayweather UD. Hatton will have to knock him out, which I can't envisage.

    I give Hatton a 30% chance.
     
  6. BeReal

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    I look at it just the opposite of most. I think FLOYD wears down hatton over 12 rounds and rips Fatton's body. Floyd wide UD or late stoppage
     
  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Let's analyse a few issues:

    weight = 147
    - Hatton looked terrible at 147, his trainer admitted this fact = +PBF
    - Floyd has beaten a few bums at 147 and another has-been at 154, but has probably looked better than Hatton = +PBF
    - PBF does not carry power to these weights, meaning Hatton should be able to walk him down, even though he is coming up in weight =+Hatton
    - Hatton's power at this weight is questionable =+PBF

    Referee
    - If he allows Hatton to wrestle, it will favour him.

    Crowd
    - I assume they are fighting in the US? A Manchester crowd will help Hatton. A US crowd won't make too much difference.

    Pedigree
    - PBF has been fighting bums for a long time but he has beaten some great fighters, however none above 140 (ODLH was great, but he is a pork chop now).
    - Hatton's best win was against a past-his-prime KT. It was a good performance, but not great. His defeat of JLC was good but it was clear JLC was there to pay off some debts.

    Speed
    PBF by a long way

    Stamina
    Close, both are well-conditioned fighters. This will be bad for Hatton who can wear opponents down, since he won't be able to do this against PBF.

    Defence
    PBF by a mile

    Power
    Hatton might possess more power than PBF but it is hard to be sure.

    Chin
    Hatton - I think PBF will go down if he is hit cleanly. Why? Because he hasn't been hit cleanly and his body is not conditioned to it - but Hatton will have less than a 5% chance of landing a full power shot on the button over 12 rounds.


    I think PBF sees this as easy money and an easy fight, particularly because of the weight. I tend to agree with him, but don't discount an undefeated fighter with heart, chin and stamina even against a model fighter like PBF. I think Hatton will try to get down and dirty to try to stir Floyd up mentally. Does the ref step in? Who knows? Does Hatton carry enough strength and power to 147 to cause PBF and discomfort? Not sure, but I would guess he is on the 'roids (joking)/weights right now.

    Conclusion: If Hatton can cause discomfort to PBF in terms of strength, power, consistent pressure, man-handling and body shots, he has a chance at a late TKO. This is fairly unlikely given the past and if PBF trains and takes this fight seriously, which is pretty much a guarantee.

    Prediction: PBF by UD 117-111.

    You heard it here first!!! (Go Fatton!!)
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    working hard to earn your moniker.
     
  9. Toopretty

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    Floyd has a chin..lol he trains to take a punch though he dont get hit. His kneck is solid and when he got tagged by judah, odh or whoever else he did not get hurt at all. Corley wobbled him with a shot he didnt see. That was the only time I seen him actually hurt by a punch. Hattons chance is if Floyd tries to engage him and be the aggressor which he is not really his MO. But he wont. He will box hatton and hattons fans will be in awe on how a boxer can force a pressure fighter to box. Especially pressure fighters with short reach and not good combination punching. Hatton cant cut no ring off against floyd. LOL that is a joke. Hatton looked good against fighters that just stood there like statues or came right at him and tried to fight him his fight(castillo)
     
  10. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    He stands a chance but the only way I see him winning is outwilling Floyd. From round one we will see the gap in all around boxing ability as Ricky will catch leather and air. He'll land but I see Mayweather doubling in landed punches in the first few rounds.

    The only way I can imagine him winning is in a Creed/Balboa II type fight.
     
  11. Fallow

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    If Jake La Motta, who was crude when compared to the more educated pressure of Hatton, can score a couple of wins against the greatest fighter to have ever laced them up then Hatton stands at least as good a chance of beating Mayweather.

    There are very feasible scenarios that lead to a Hatton victory, most notably the one that sees Hatton completely shutting the ring off and keeping his head on Mayweather’s chest whilst relentlessly hammering away in a very rough and dirty close-quarters fight.

    Remember, Floyd will need to keep Hatton at distance to win this fight as easily as many of you are predicting and that is something that 43 men have failed to do.

    I do still favour Floyd in this one and believe that his speed and accuracy will be too much for the Manchester man, but one would be foolish to write Hatton off.
     
  12. smokey

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    I think Hattons ugly grappling style has a chance to negate Floyd's speed advantage and win the fight... a good chance actually. It largely depends on he ref. If they get Jay Nady, Hatton is going to get brutalized and probably quit on his stool.
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Of course he has a chance. Anyone who says differently is a Mayweather fanboy....
     
  14. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    everybody has a chance. but as someone else already said, hatton has to make the fight as ugly as possible and will himself to victory because mayweather has the clear advantage in talent and skill.
     
  15. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    Ricky's only chance is if they get a Greco-Roman wrestling-friendly referee like Frank Warren's ol' pal Dave Parris (who let Ricky dryhump Tszyu all night long) or Robert Byrd (he of the Hopkins-Wright hugfest).

    That way he can neutralize Floyd's mobility and ability to kill you on the outside by holding and brawling on the inside...note again by holding.