Who here uses weights in their training?

There is nothing sports specific about throwing a medicine ball. And I never said weights can't be useful, what I said is they aren't useful to me.

 

that certain "mike tyson" also bicep curled.

 

Never seen the D'Amato version do it, but did that make his sports specific resistance training any less efficient? Because if it didn't work for him perhaps I should switch to sports specific training, like throwing medicine balls against the wall.

 

I understand your point of view about weights but I disagree with this, throwing a medicine ball against a wall is definitely sports specific for boxing.

 

About as sports specific as a bench press. Not at all. Unless your sport happens to be throwing balls. It in no way mimics the movement of a punch, they are biomechanically as different as they can get.

 

running/cycling isn't sport specific either though.

 

I never said it was.

 

I really can't understand why you would think that. You throw it with the exact same motion as throwing a punch using the same muscles as a punch. Using your legs and twisting your core to fire it out in one explosive action. Have you ever done it before? You seem to think it's throwing a little ball against a wall. You fire it out like a punch, you're not 'throwing' it.

 

other than sparring, shadowboxing is the best possible workout for boxing in my opinion.

 

why not just throw a punch then?

 

Because of the weight of the medicine ball it stabilises your core and improves your balance more than a punch against a heavy bag.

 

There's a weight pulling you down (gravity) and the details of the movement are different from a punch as it's a push. Impact is gradual instead of sudden, and explosiveness compared to a punch is minimal. It does beg the question why not throw a punch, as neurological adaptations are highly specific to the movement that caused them. I'm not saying non sports specific training doesn't have its function, you can't do bag work all the time so go for it. I'll admit that comparing it to a bench press was over the top, that was for dramatic effect

Anyone who claims weight training is better resistance training for boxing than bag work does not believe in specificity and adaptability, and is in no position to call my stance unscientific. The fact that you need to lift weights to maintain your strength means it doesn't really work that way in boxing, because that's another principle of training at work, reversibility.

 

That made no sense at all to me.