Who here uses weights in their training?

Think about the physics of it. You seem to have a holistic view towards training which is a positive thing yet for some reason you discriminate against doing weights. It all helps, you can't just do sports specific exercises all the time. There are antagonising muscles you have to train aswell. Weights are excellent for strengthening ligaments, preventing injuries. I mean compound exercises when I say weights, not talking about bodybuilding ****. Every athlete should use weights in one form or another, Soviet boxers only deal with science and they've used weights and done plyometric exercises (medicine ball throws and such) for decades with great success. Just because it's working for you so far doesn't mean it's optimal for you.

 

I don't. For some reason you people take offence in me not using them.

I said the exact same thing two posts back :huh

And sports specific resistance training trains exactly the right ones by definition (unless of course you merely tap or push the bag). Same goes for ligaments.

Every athlete should use resistance training. I choose the resistance training that yields the most optimal results, which is always the sports specific one by definition. Adaptability and specificity at work. Neurological adaptations are highly sports specific. Lift weights, by all means, I never said you shouldn't or that it was useless. Punching is a plyometric movement by the way.

 

Ressistance is good for training ligaments not weights, they are constant ligaments are not, as regards motion. There resistance changes with the fulcram weigths weight dont.

 

i shadow box with a 2 or 3 lb weight

sometimes i do some rotator cuff exercises with a weight

and sometimes i'll do some arm and shoulder exercises with 2 x 10 lb dumbells

 

The best rotator tendon exercise I know is with 2lb dumbells, thats about as much as we go too.

 

What is this exercise? 2lbs sounds pointlessly light? :?

 

Its a very intricate stretch, it has to be demonstrated. It stretches every tendon in the shoulder, its a routine 8 movements.

 

oo id really like to see that! my shoulder is finally on the mend i think, and when its healed i wanted to look into some shoulder exercises so hopefully it wont ever happen again as its been the biggest pain in the arse ever!

 

A little shadow boxing with weights helps.
But..... There we go with the original question

 

Shadowboxing with weights will not increase strength, all it will do is destroy your form by pulling your punches down. Apart from potentially injuring you, that is.

 

I agree with RDJ shadow boxing with weights is going to cause damage and its going to mess with your feel which in return effects form when the weights arent there and will be counter productive to the rounds and rounds of shadowboxing your doing to work on technique..

Sport specific makes perfect sense, we should trust in our body to be able to adapt to whatever task it is given to perform to its maximum ability, this is what our body does, it adapts, and it does an increadible job at it. i cant help but think that people that are looking elsewhere for answers dont fully understand just how complex the human body is and how it works, and might even go as far as saying it seems arrogant to me that people think they know better, or can do a better job than the human body can itself, maybe this is just me.

If you wanted to be a better footballer you wouldnt play snooker would you? im a big believer in technique and the bodys ability to adapt to what your doing over time and lets say your only spending 2 hours on non specific resistance/weight training a week, well id much rather spend those 2 hours each week doing shadow boxing or heavy bag work or mitts.

In 2 hours i think your body can learn a hell of a lot about what its trying to do and how to adapt to it and perfect it, maybe i just have a feeling that i have more productive training sessions than i actually do, but i just dont see the kind of development being matched in a non sport specific training session to be honest, perhaps if you get so close to physically mastering your body in terms of boxing movements that its more ecenomic spending that time in other areas, then i might think about looking somewhere else for supplementary training due to making the assumption that the body has hit its peak and can no longer develop at the rate it used to while doing boxing specific training only, but right now i sure as hell havent peaked, im not even sure i believe that its even possible to peak, not entirely.

I only try to give advice based on experience, when i started boxing i was pretty strong, stronger than the average joe in the gym and i did it in half the time it took a lot of the other older guys, i believe it to be because im a student of the human body and love to learn about how it works id say i probably had a small advanatage because of this. after almost 2 years of no weights just boxing so in theory 2 years of supposedly getting weaker, im hitting harder and faster than i ever did, this tells me i dont need weights right now so i dont use them, interesting discussion this one, i have way too much time on my hands recently.

 

Wow thats one of the most awesome posts ever.

 

Great post :happy

 

how about jabing the mb against the wall, and using the same motion as a punch to throw it against a wall.

How about hooking a mb into a heavy bag,

seems pretty sports specific to me and builds strength.

using boxing movements with resistance, will improve your power.