Who here uses weights in their training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Boxinglad123, Jul 24, 2010.


  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I think it's quite simple
    It's good to use weights, as long as you mix it with other exercises, and you keep flexible of course.
     
  2. boxingtactics07

    boxingtactics07 Active Member Full Member

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    crossfit was fun and does improve general fitness, but a well designed plan is more efficient for a boxer than the randomness.
     
  3. Boxinglad123

    Boxinglad123 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not always. Shocking the body with new exercises will often give better gains.
     
  4. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    There simply is no substitute for training for a person's sport. Motor patterns become more refined, thus requiring less energy, better coordination through repetition, and simply better efficiency overall.

    However, weight training(not bodybuilding) if done correctly has benefits for all sports including boxing and can increase flexibility, strength, power, and explosiveness. The problem is that far too often people still associate muscular hypertrophy with "weight training." Developing this type of musculature can lead to a decreased range of motion and muscles that simply are not oxidative for sports such as boxing. Both type I(oxidative)and type II(fast twitch) muscle fibers are necessary for boxing, which can be developed to a greater capacity through well thought out and researched weight training routines. This DOES NOT mean that it is a necessity. Boxing is a sport that requires speed-strength, not strength-speed. It can be trained in many ways, with and without weights. However, I believe that having a decent level of overall strength from a sound weight program is beneficial for any sport and can improve performance.

    As a sidenote, of course it would be a terrible idea for a boxer to train with weights during a fight camp.

    As for sport specific training, boxing is an aerobic-anaerobic sport. Therefore, it is important to train the primary energy system which is aerobic. If you look at most graphs depicting energy expenditure with heart rates being measured, most fighters, whether in MMA, boxing, etc. rarely go over their anaerobic threshold because that is the point where the body becomes anaerobic, which has a very limited supply of energy before a person "gasses." Therefore, developing the primary energy system for your sport through whatever means is the best example of how to train "sport specifically."
     
  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    They do use weights, i've seen tons of vids with them using kettlebells and dumbells.
     
  6. Relentless

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    Jeff hen are you going over to visit wild card?

    make sure you film your visit also checkout other nearby gyms such as Joe Goossens...
     
  7. Relentless

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    if you're talking about pacquiao or khan then you're wrong, pacquiao at 130 used to come into the ring at 145lb, so he hasn't really put on any mass.
     
  8. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    I got that information from a Roach interview, I can try to dig it up later today.
     
  9. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not a single one buddy.

    You should show us one of your fights before ragging on mine, but I guess that won't happen. Back to your steroids, needle boy.
     
  10. Sprawla

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    ahahahah whatever

    you couldnt even bruise a grape with your weak punching power...

    more like you cant land a punch, so your right, weights wont help you either way
     
  11. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Wow.. thats interesting..., RDJ is right your not addresing any points made your just making crude comments, obviousley you have no idea what your talking about otherwise you would discuss it like the rest of us rather than just making childish comments, maybe go find a little kids forum so you can be with like minded people, atleast post a video of your own fights before slagging others off, but tbh we dont need a video to tell us that you cant fight yourself, your posts are enough.
     
  12. Sprawla

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    ok what points haven't i addressed, and look at all your spelling mistakes you imbecile, more like you the one who should be hanging around a kids forum..

    and why is it obvious i don't know what I'm talking about, i already stated why i think weights is more effective and even listed a routine we used the other week. I know weights i more effective because i actually do that routine and know the difference it makes in my strength, speed and endurance and even cardio, even tho its not all boxing specific, some is and some isn't but that is the benefits. Different exercises and routines shock the body and the growth in improvement is larger then if you just hit a heavy bag and adapt to the resistance it provides.
    Boxers burn a lot of fat and also MUSCLE with all the hard training they do, so some type of strength training is imperative. Notice i said strength training and not weight lifting or bodybuilding and yes you use weights for strength training.
     
  13. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Reversibility at work. It only occurs if you're underfed or overmuscled. And indeed if you do no strength training it would occur, but it doesn't on my regime because I do use resistance training. Sports specific even, because why settle for less :good

    If your muscle starts disappearing the moment you stop lifting weights, you're not actually using them.

    Resistance. The reason weights can work is that they provide resistance through gravity. A heavy bag provides resistance as well, the harder you hit it the more it resists. If bag work does not qualify as resistance training, you're tapping the bag instead of punching it.
     
  14. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its the origanal Plyometric execise in Boxing :good
     
  15. Sprawla

    Sprawla Active Member Full Member

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    How about training the hips for explosiveness which will help with your punching power with exercises like kettle bell swing. The hips are a very important part of any fighter they need to be very explosive. How can you train them to be explosive with out the resistance of weight.

    These exercises are not boxing specific but will definitely help you with your punching power and all round conditioning.

    you can not just rely of punching a heavy bag for full body conditioning. You use your whole body in boxing and should train your body accordingly. You have to think about defence as well, sometimes you need to out strength your opponent. How will hitting a heavy bag make you physically stronger then your opponent. You need to have strong legs as well, how will hitting a heavy bag make your legs stronger when your opponent in trying to over power you.

    RDJ you only seem to be covering the punching aspect of boxing with hitting the heavy bag, i also hit the heavy bag but i think strength training is covering all aspect of boxing conditioning wise. Strong body.