Who hit harder for their size, Mike Tyson or Roberto Duran?

And frank bruno 2

This destruction is from inside

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I don't know. The 80s had a lot of out of shape guys I admit that, but it was a pretty good era in other ways. Skill level and speed. Dokes was a good fighter, and he was not at the top.. Tubbs I never liked much, but he had quick hands. I wish Cooney would have tested himself against the Dokes and Tubbs of the division to see how he would do with someone a little below Holmes level.
I don't think much of Andy Ruiz. Maybe if he proves he can comeback and win at the big level again. I think John Ruiz was a better fighter than Andy as it stands right now.

 

He was ok on the inside when an opponent did nothing themselves or let him work.

 

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C'mon man! 84-on was lazy ass big titty era except for Mike.

 

Louis’s highlight reel is better than Tyson’s in my opinion. There’s some chilling KO’s there with both hands.

 

Ok? Destroying people is only ok? "Ok" then

 

A few moments against obliging guys does not a career make. He was tied up far too easily and often to be called a fine inside fighter. This is what good inside fighters do - they get free, maneuver etc and find a way. They are busy, opportunist. Tyson simply wasn't. Tyson was usually content just to wait for the break.

In the first round of Tyson - Bruno II Bruno ties him up endlessly and easily and Tyson invariably does nothing about it. Bruno actually does more than Tyson in these clinches and actually has some good moments in one of them getting his hands free and putting some leather on Mike.

Bruno was tying Tyson ups so often and effectively in the second round he was penalized a point.

Tyson did end the fight abruptly inside after he had hurt Bruno fro midrange and Bruno's previously infallible clinching failed him because he was already hurt.

This was opportunist and Bruno was hurt. It was the first time Tyson was able to shrug him off and let his hands go all fight.

A lot of people get mid range mixed up with inside fighting when it comes to Tyson. He is always going to be close to his opponents because his reach of 71" is extremely short for a heavyweight and he isn't tall to boot. SRL has 3" more reach for context. He also throws lots of hooks. Frazier actually has more reach.

Of course the good thing for Tyson was once he got inside those bigger guys he was absolute murder at midrange - a real killer. This is why it was so important to tie him up. Adding a big of true inside game would have rounded him right out but he also would have expended some energy. Being tied up so consistently was probably his biggest weakness. If people had to box him clinch free he would have been something else again.

 

Frazier is one of the best inside fighters ever and he could not do **** inside against Foreman so to me it is unfair that you use it only against Tyson.
anyway i agree that Tyson is not a pure inside/pressure fighter, he was more a mid distance fighter but i am closer to your position i disagree that he was horrible inside

 

Well he was almost non existent inside, especially if a guy was unhurt.

Use it only against Tyson? Any amount of guys nullified Tyson inside, any amount of them. Whether they beat him or not is irrelevant as we are talking about one facet. How many guys nullified or outfought Frazier inside?

Foreman was an immovable object and also shoved Frazier away to where he wanted him quite a bit. Oh and he had that uppercut. For me no short come forward guy was ever going to beat Foreman. He was an absolute monster to come at like that.

Foreman didn't tie Frazier up so as much as push him off and destroy him.

 

It is an absolute nonsense,not truth at all

 

Too bad we never got to see him against Bowe in the early 90's. That would have been an intriguing match-up.