Who hit harder....Foreman or Marciano?

Vingo can hardly put sentences together after the Rock bomb him out. You may also have your teeth smash into your gums, as he did to Layne. You might have chips on your arms also. Marciano was no power puff. He was the real deal. With Foreman, yeah he bomb you out in a round or 2, but in most cases, you be ok.

 

But please acknowledge that outside of a used up Frazier and a chinny, one-trick pony in Norton, all his opponents were absolute ****. What were they protecting?

 

Film does not support this analysis. Marciano has devastating one-two punch knockouts over walcott, matthews, layne and even louis. who did foreman bomb out with only 1-2 punches in his prime? i never seen a prime foreman score a 1 punch kayo over a good fighter besides moorer at age 45.

 

A great punch landed at the tale end of a grueling fight, in which both men had taken a long term pounding. Sorry, but I was never convinced that a single punch is what did in Jersey Joe Walcott that evening. He was a tired fighter who had taken an accumulation of shots, and that big punch was the last and final straw. This does not change my position on the issue.

 

Maybe that's because the men he was fighting were live bodies, some of whom had never been Ko'd and were still at or near prime. Who else ever destroyed Joe Frazier like that? I mean really. Norton was not the most durable fighter in the world, but he wasn't the chiniest either. He was probably at his peak when Foreman smoked him. How many people ever stopped George Chuvalo? Lyle took many good shots from Foreman, and even dished out his fair share, but is it really your position that Marciano would just nail one or all these guys with a single shot, and that's all she wrote?

 

And even Michael Moorer admitted that Foreman had softened him up over the preceding three rounds. Go back and look at the tape, people, George hit his rhythm and was peppering Moorer with great jabs and the occasional right for at least three rounds until the end. There is no shame in this. Foreman was a devastating punchers but more thudding and demoralizing than concussive with a single punch.

 

After watching tape of both men, Foreman seems more likely to hurt/stun/KO with a glancing blow, but I'd rather take a Foreman bomb than a flush Marciano bomb any day of the week.

I think what made Foreman so effective as a puncher was not his sheer punching power, but the strength of his punches. He didn't need to land clean to hurt you, but his punches had a way of making guys stop defending themself (Frazier, Norton) that is kind of unique. Once they got hit, even if they weren't really hurt, they would either freeze and soak up punishment or simply be unable to protect themselves.

I don't feel that a shot from Foreman could do any long-lasting damage to me, or even kill me for that matter. Sure it would KO me, but in a "would you do it for $10000?"-type scenario, I would consider it.

On the other hand, I would be genuinely fearful of getting caught on the end of the Suzie Q.

 

He was out cold for over 3 minutes, had it been the first round I think it would have been the same effect.

 

I agree with this whole post. 5 stars.:good

 

1. You ignored the rematch.
2. Do you honestly think that shot, which put Walcott out cold as a doorknob so badly he wouldn't have beaten a 60-count, would not have knocked him out had it landed in the first round? If so, I think you're being extremely silly. If Walcott had gone down and struggled mightily to arise, but he couldn't quite get his equilibrium back or his legs just failed him, you might have a case. But it's just plain laughable to suggest that Walcott was knocked out cold so badly that spectators thought he'd been killed from a single punch because he was tired.
3. Even if this rationale actually worked (which it absolutely does not), it could be applied just as well to Foreman-Moorer; in fact, there is a much better case for such an influence on Foreman's KO over Moorer, as Moorer himself said Foreman had softened him up slightly in the prior rounds, said that he was already hurt from a glancing shot a moment earlier before Foreman hit him with the KO punch, and was not out cold, but struggled to get up and didn't have quite the strength/equilibrium to do so. As one-punch knockouts go, Foreman's over Moorer is far less impressive than Marciano's over Walcott. Moreover, Marciano has one or two-punch knockouts over not only Walcott- twice- but Layne and Matthews as well. Foreman's only noteworthy win which could be seen as a one-punch knockout is the Moorer fight. If anything, Foreman generally took more knockdowns than Marciano did to finish his man off.

 

Rex Layne 23 years old 34-1(25) never stopped before, rated # 2 by ring magazine was not a live body?


Harry Kid Mathews 81-3 29 years old, never down for the 10 count before, rated # 5 by Ring Magazine was not a live body?

 

Walcott, Layne, Charles, and Moore were lived bodys when they battle the Rock. They were not corpses, They were not Ali vs Holmes or Holyfiled vs Toney.

 

Foreman was knocking out bigger fighters like Frazier, Norton, Lyle and stopping guys like Chuvalu early on. Top fighters couldn't last 2 rounds when Foreman was champ. Most of Marciano's championship fights went to the mid to late rounds.

 

Joe Walcott rated Marciano's one punch power ,superior to that of Louis,that has to be considered very carefully as Walcott was in the position to know.I think Rocky's kos over Layne and Walcott are chilling,as is Foremans club down of Frazier,and Norton.No one can really give you a definitive answer on this but Marciano ,especially given his size was a freak when it came to one punch power,his stubby legs were the foundation from which he brought up his wallops ,and he could do it late in a fight too.The man was a one- off really.

 

That's because he was a slow starter, much like Frazier.