Who hit harder Haye or Ali?

No because Ali is a far, far, far better boxer.

Can you understand English, brother?

Haye has more power.

This does not translate to he is better than Ali, or would fare better against Ali's opposition.

There is a list as long as my arm of HW boxers who hit harder than Ali, many of which are not fit to lace his boots.

 

Haye is the new Ali.

 

Agreed. Also, Ali did stop Lyle, Liston, Quarry and Williams and all of them had solid chins.

 

It's not really possible to say who hit harder between these two. Ali was a fighter who didn't sit on his punches as much as Haye does, but you also have to factor in the fact that Ali fought much better opposition. Everybody knows that the better opposition you face the less KO's you usually have. Elite fighters don't get taken out that much.

 

Lovely response.

I'm not going to break this down to the minute detail, its a worthless task.

Personally, if at this point 80% odd of boxing fans think David Haye hits harder than Muhammad Ali full stop, if its that emphatic, I would say David Haye's punch-power as a heavyweight is severely over-rated.

 

See, you've now missed the point sir. Even if I were to go along with this and say Haye could "hurt Frazier more than Ali did" with a punch, he still would not have the footwork, stamina and endurance to survive the retaliatory onslaught, which Ali was able to do.

 

Haye is one of the hardest punchers of all time.

Ali was feather fisted.

 

Ok. Who hits harder then, Wlad or Haye?

 

atsch

 

Haye loads his punches up, hence why he throws relatively few punches and has stamina issues. He can bang though, that's for sure. Chisora has a solid chin and anyone that can make SNV do the chicken dance is an ATG puncher. For all the **** people give Haye about the Wlad fight, he certainly got Wlads respect when he was landing, even if it was not very often.

 

See the reason I asked is because the better conditioned the fighter the better he could take a punch ..I mean really who has he KO ed ..


You also think Ali couldn't have KO ed Valuev ? Yet your saying Haye had more power :think

I understand English just not yours :good

 

I said 'probably', not definitely. Doesn't really matter, there's not a HUGE difference between the two. It's not like Haye hits like Sonny Liston or George Foreman. He's a strong puncher at cruiser, I haven't found him all that impressive at HW. He's not knocking people dead and the HW's he's stopped aren't exactly murderer's row.