Who Hit harder Ken Norton or Jersey Joe Walcott?

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  1. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The skills of Foreman and Liston are superior to thoses of Vitali and Lewis. Vitali-Lewis looked like two lumbering giants flailing at each other. Watch Foreman's destructions of Frazier and Norton. Foreman expertly cuts off the ring, sets up his punches, nails his opponents with pinpoint textbook punches. It's scary. Liston was technically even better. During his reign, experts remarked on how Liston's offensive skill was the equal of Louis'. Just because Ali made them look slow and clumsy says something about how great Ali was.

    I am genuinely surprised anybody would actually claim that Vitali or Lewis was on the same skill level as Foreman and Liston. It's so obviously wrongheaded that it raises serious questions about that person's overall judgment. Or was the remark trolling? If so, good work, 'cause it sure got me excited.
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Walcott hit harder, he dropped great fighters, Norton was a awkward punchers and but I dont recall having any clean KO's, even Duane Bobick who was a strait up fighter as a pro was acumulation if you want to see Bobick getting KO'd watch his fight vs Kallie Knotezee.....JJwalcott had a pefect pinpiont power punch, sneaky clean and to the point and he could do it with either hand...no contest Walcott hit harder
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What that post said is that Liston and Foreman were not as BIG AND SKILLED. Liston is 30 to 40 pounds lighter and inches shorter. Foreman was quite a bit smaller in his prime in the seventies also, and I don't think he was as skilled. Good boxers outboxed him. How many have outboxed Vitali or Lewis.
     
  4. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Probably Jersey Joe Walcott, but he's not that much higher than Ken Norton, in my estimation.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Walcott was a counter puncher who turned over big sneeky shots, where as Norton was more a high volume attrition fighter who makes you fight at a fast pace. So Walcott but I'm not sure who wins or if Walcott keeps upto Norton's quick pace
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Accumulation ? He stopped Bobick in 58 seconds ... Take a look at the shot he crushed Randy Stephens with ... look at the bombs he landed on Quarry , brutal to watch ... I think both guys were on the same level and if anything Norton was heavier handed on a consistent basis .. his jab was far more punishing ..
     
  7. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Best punch for punch, I think Ken hit harder and was stronger. However, Walcott was the better puncher for me.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    How could this page hae attained so many pages? Of course Walcott hit harder.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think Norton hit harder but walcott had the knock out power at world class level so I go with walcott. You can measure the power of a punch on a machine but if the fighter cant catch a world class fighter with full steam whats the point?
     
  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree Turpin. Ken was no powder puff puncher,but Walcott hit harder.
     
  11. suriamarsuli

    suriamarsuli Member Full Member

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    [/QUOTE]Walcott would have floored Ali and Young defintley....Walcott also would have floored holmes and easily knocked out ledoux(who norton couldnt even floor)[/QUOTE]

    There isn't one bit of objective analysis in this conclusion of yours.Just mere speculation
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Great point, surprised it took this long for someone to say.

    Probably the case.
     
  13. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    I'd say they're pretty comparable. Punch for punch I like Walcott, but it's not like there's much in it.