Who Hit Harder Marciano Or Lewis???

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    simple.

    have them face each others opposition and see if they can outdo each other
     
  2. HerolGee

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    single blows, lewis.

    combos - lewis.

    average force induced through fight - lewis

    accumulated total force delivered in entire fight -Marciano, he could sustain his pressure for the entire fight, despite a lot of wild blows.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Interesting summation and theory.:think
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Okay ,lets put Marciano's challengers against Lewis's ,and vice versa.

    Moore kod in 9rds
    Charles Kod in8rds
    Charles w dec15rds
    Walcott kod 1 rd
    Walcott kod 13rd
    ****ell ko 9rds.

    Marciano had 6 defences so lets pick Lewis's 6 .

    You can change the names if you disagree,it isnt really important,imo.
    Bruno ko7
    Morrison ko6
    Briggs ko5
    Tua w 12
    Vitali ko6
    Grant ko 2

    How do they do vis a vis each others challengers?
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    Except we can't actually do that, so not so simple.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I think they would both struggle to go undefeated with those.
     
  7. mcvey

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    To be truthful I don't ,I think Lewis stops all Marciano's challengers , but I'd like others input.
     
  8. janitor

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    If tests conducted on both men in separate eras can be compared reliably, then Rocky Marciano hit as hard as Frank Bruno.

    I will just throw that one into the mix!
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I have my doubts as to whether Lewis would go 2-0 against Charles and 2-0 against Walcott.

    Mainly because his record is completely lacking wins over fast, cagey, skilful slicksters of that type.
    Landing big shots on immobile behemoths like Grant, Bruno and Briggs is the antithesis of boxing with a Charles and Walcott.
    I'm not say Lewis absolute cannot, but there's a severe lack of evidence.
     
  10. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't think any of Marciano's challengers last the distance with Lewis... or Wlad.
     
  11. The Long Count

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    Based on that list Lewis stopped bigger men but Rocky stopped far greater fighters.
     
  12. AnthonyJ74

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    Nikolai Valuev, all 7'0" and 320 pounds of him, should, by virtue of his size, be the hardest puncher in heavyweight history. But he wasn't -- not even close! Earnier Shavers would look like a dwarf next to Valuev, but I think Shavers hit just a little bit harder.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Lewis beat men better than both of them, men like Holyfield who would whip them both at that stage of their careers.
    You dont think Tucker was fast and cagey?Tyrell Biggs?

    Marciano's record[ it really should go without saying,] is singularly lacking of kos over modern superheavyweights such as Briggs , Vitali, Morrison, Bruno,Ruddock, Grant,Golota etc.
    Lewis also has wins over short squat swarmers such as Tyson and Tua:think There is a complete lack of evidence that Marciano could weather the power of any of those big boys.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Were they great fighters at that stage of their careers?

    I dispute that Walcott , Charles,and Moore were ever great heavyweights. They have never made a top ten that I have seen.:think
     
  15. Seamus

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    This is the knee jerk reaction to the reality that greater size does as a general trend equal greater power and durability… i.e. the basis for the very structure of boxing competitions.

    One outlier does not disprove a reality that is understood in every gym, that is at the basis of every title belt and negotiation and training camp… making weight.

    And beyond that, there does seem to be a flatlining of the power increase above a certain height and weight...