Who hit harder Marciano or Tyson?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, I don't remember the BSP gloves but Ampro yes.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Talking out your backside saying Walcott decided to stay down in his second knockout to Marciano.

    If Tyson was such a huge banger then why wasn't he knocking those 190lbers clean out when he was on his title run?
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've only had 4 sparring fights.

    I was very heavy when I started boxing, that's partly why I started boxing.

    I was about 17 stone. I fought a guy who a LWW, a guy who was a FW and two my size.

    I remember the lighter guys could sting with shots where as the heavier guys were like blunt force trauma.

    I was **** though.
     
  4. mcvey

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    My opinion is backed by the footage of the fight,and that of several ringsiders including :
    AJ Leibling and Sugar Ray Robinson, Peter Wilson ,and James Dawson.

    Here's another opinion.

    "On May 15th 1953, Walcott squared off once again against Rocky Marciano. Only this time, the second fight was an anticlimax by comparison to the first one. Marciano knocked Walcott out in the opening round which many observers, including Bert Sugar, considered to be a dive. The assumption was that Marciano was peaking and highly regarded as the new face of boxing, whereas father time had long been calling for Walcott. Following his second KO defeat in a row at the hands of the Brockton Blockbuster, Walcott announced his retirement from
    boxing ."



    Tyson fought 5 men under 200lbs, they lasted a grand total of 7minutes and 2 seconds.

    Here's a question for you.
    How many rounds do you think:
    Don C*ckell
    Roland Lastarza
    Ted Lowry
    Don Mogard
    Willis Applegate
    Art Henri
    Manage with Tyson?

    BTW 20 of Marciano's stoppages were tko's or retirements.

    I think you should try talking out of your backside ,I'm sure you would make more sense than you currently do talking out of your mouth!
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Backed up by footage, you got **** holes for eyes then?

    How many of those fighters did Tyson render unconscious whilst having a big weight advantage....

    I'm not talking out of my mouth am I dreamer?
     
  6. mcvey

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    Those experts are wrong and you are right ? Is that it?

    Would you like to answer the question? Or just give puerile abuse?
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes they are, I can see with my own eyes that Rocky scored a heavy knockdown, I don't need to listen to an expert to tell me what I can or can't see. What question? Tyson was a faster starter and tried to get a fighter out of there in short order, doesn't mean he punched any harder or any softer than Marciano. How many fighters did Tyson leave unconscious compared to Rocky? Don't say Tyson fought bigger men because he rarely knocked the smaller fighters unconscious with one shot, Marciano did it at the top levels.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Can you see with your own eyes that Walcott was incapable of getting up before 10 because that is the whole crux of the argument.



    Do you want to examine all the sub 200pounders that Marciano did NOT ko? Here's just a few
    Art Henri 184lbs 13-15-1 tko 9 rds
    Ted Lowry 180.75lbs 65-57-19 dec 10rds x2
    Gino Buonvino199lbs22-11-7 tko10rds
    Roland Lastarza 187lbs37-0-0 dec12+tko11rds
    Willis Applegate 196lbs 11-14-2 dec 10rds
    Don Mogard 187lbs 19-9-1 dec 10rds
    Again I ask how many rounds do these men last with Tyson? Now do you want to answer that ,or just keep on with the insults which btw don't damage me ,they just mug you.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That happens all the time in boxing, you don't know how clear a fighters head is just by looking at them. He went down hard and heavy from a great uppercut.

    You still don't get it do you, Tyson more than likely dispatches them quicker but it's down to him being a faster, more explosive fighter with a style and mindset to get them out of there ASAP. Which fighters under 215lb that Tyson beat would see the final bell against Marciano, very few if any?
     
  10. mcvey

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    Okay,you decline to answer on the grounds that it might incriminate you.:lol:
     
  11. ribtickler68

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    Yes, an unfair advantage, I feel. I was hampered with the looks of George Clooney, I'm afraid!:lol
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I clearly meant a couple of weeks of sparring per fight. I didn't read all of what you just said. Truth be told, I really couldn't care less if you believe me or not, what I'm telling you is the truth. Whether you believe it or not, is another matter.
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i still remember my medical card number, not that i'm thinking of making a comeback hahaha
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Thank you, and I don't know exactly what you mean but I'm much better with my left.
    That's not bad at all.
    I'm not gonna lie, I've been counted out a couple times.
     
  15. nikrj

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