Who hit harder Marciano or Tyson?

not really but i kinda don't mind either way :good

lmao, don't take that the wrong way dude, i am sorry, that's just a really good record, call me jealous :deal

if you really had 40 fights with 28 or so knock outs the power to you, seriously, that is freaking amazing in my book :good

 

Top post and one I agree with by and large.

One thing I will say is that Rocky's power did seem to dissipate after he won the title as he did score some impressive KO's of Rex Layne and Harry Matthews (with his left hand too) for example coming up along with the Walcott beauty. But after that as you said he seemed to grind his opponents down and looked less devastating as a single shot puncher. Likely this was because his quality of opposition improved after he became champ or perhaps because Rocky was getting on for 30 by the time he won the title.

But Tyson takes this I think.

 

I think Tyson as well. I think of Rocky as being more of a grinder, inluding prechampionship. Walcott seemed to be a battle of attrition with Rocky grinding to a thunderous culmination.

I am also not sure of it's overall importance, they both could swat hard enough to get the job done. It starts to become a question of which is heavier a ton of rocks or a ton of feathers.

 

And Provodnikov compared to Kovalev?

For me this is a no brainer. Tyson had some 40 lbs on Rocky with a similar height, had at least as good leverage and much faster hands.

To go with this he KO'd lots of world class fighters above 220 lbs. Some who never got KO'd before or after.


Jesus, do seven people on this forum truly believe Rocky hit harder? That is actually delusional.

 

I am going to play devil’s advocate here.

I don’t think that Tyson’s size advantage can be taken to be anything more than suggestive.

Primo Carnera had a substantial lean weight advantage over both of them, and I don’t think that we would assume him to hit harder than either.

Furthermore I would point out that what limited data we have on punching power, produces some rather bizarre results.

I would also be cautious about reading too much into their respective opposition.

Marciano’s has one of the highest KO percentages of any of the lineal heavyweight champions, so he was doing what we would expect of a puncher, however strong or weak his opposition was.

 

Carnera had much less leverage and speed than Tyson, so I don't see how that's comparable.

No one is saying that a bigger man automatically hits harder. But when a substantially bigger man also has substantially faster hands with at least equal leverage - and has proven his power much more against 220+ lbs world class fighters...

 

Tyson

He was bigger, faster and fighting much bigger fighters than Marciano.

 

What does fighting bigger fighters have to do with who hits harder?

 

ok. Koing much bigger guys.

also F= MA

Bigger mass, much faster acceleration on his punches.

Much more Force.

 

Exactly.

Don't try to predict punching power, because you will fail!

 

ok ok ok, you win, I believe you for crying out loud.

that is a very good record, yes even with 5 or 6 losses or whatever you had, from the details you have provided it couldn't be more than 12 losses as you had 28ko's out of 40 fights so that only leaves 12 fights where you could of had a potential loss if my math is correct?

that would be a 28-12 record (at worst) which is still a very good AM record.

that means you have far more real boxing experience then me and to think I had questioned your posts as being created from a individual with little or no "real" boxing experience

I am sorry. Please forgive me.

I still think Tyson hit a little harder than Rocky, maybe not much but if I had to bet I would chance it on Tyson. That doesn't mean I hero worship Tyson assuming he is or was a invincible fighter under Cus. Please don't be assuming that about me just from daring to express that I think Tyson could of hit harder than Rocky.