Who hit hardest at heavyweight

Manny says that Wlad hit harder than lewis did. I beleive him. As far as wlad not putting people to sleep with one punch..are u crazy? He can and has put people to sleep with one shot.

Just because he doesnt do it every fight with his caution first style doesnt mean he cant and hasnt.

Just his last fight he put Chambers to sleep with one shot. He is def a top 10 guy.

 

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Do you still haven´t got enough of each other´s pee in your butts?

 

Eddie Chambers was not breathing for 30 seconds. Watch Brock, Austin. Both hands are deadly.
And I do NOT say that Wlad hits hardest. But he has definitely a right to be listed here.

 

Chambers was in round 12 out on his feet. half dead. look at how many KO's hed had before round 6. Especially recently

 

I agree he has put guys to sleep in championship fights not withstanding. I would even say Wlad does not hit the hardest of these guys listed.

But, I suppose you could make an argument for him being top 5 of these guys.

 

You discount big george's Ko over MM then because it was late in the fight. It doesnt matter when the KO comes, its the fact that it does come and with wlad it comes most every fight.

I suppose you know more than Manny Steward though when it comes to punching power and Wlad's KO% is lies too huh?

Seriously, if you dont like his style that is one thing. But, Wlad can KO people with one shot and he has and he will in the future. he deserves to be on this list, just not number 1.

 

thats just my point though. Its fine hes on this list. But the amount of votes he is getting is shocking. You yourself say he probably isnt top 5. Yet he has so many votes here.

Your right in saying a KO is a KO. But when discussing something like hardest hitting heavyweights of all time, its an important statistic to examine. In his last 12 fights (since his last defeat basically) he only has 3 KO's within the first 6 rounds. The hardest hitters, every single one of them have countless early KO's. When the opponent is fresh. Not fatigued. It makes a difference when discussing greatest hitters of all time.

As for KO %, vitali has a higher one. And his level of opposition is similar to wlad. Yet no-one has even mentioned him here

 

Just wanted you to rewatch rd 12. Not only is chamber NOT dead on his feet he is moving around well and counter punching.

Tell me Chambers isnt stone cold KO'd. It doesnt get much more Ko'D than that and keep in mind chambers had never been stopped, i am not sure if he has ever been down but he has fought some big punchers. This is a quality KTFO.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKcVDfp9F8[/ame]

 

Its a quality KO. But you cant tell me KO'ing someone in round 12 is the same as getting a vicious early knockout. Im not discrediting Wlad's win here. But if Wlad really is one of the hardest hitting heavy's ever, how can you say after 12 rounds of losing every round, Chambers was not out on his feet. He was barely throwing and you can see he was bruised up. he had been taking shots all night.

And even if this fight is ignored, why isit that he rarely ever stops his fighters early. Which the likes of Foreman and Shavers used to do on a regular basis.

 

If you are only going to count championship fights then within 6 rds, how many of these guys wouldnt even be on the list? Many of these guys werent ever even the man at HW. I think you are down playing title fights and getting KO's.

Everyone knows that the higher you go in your competition the less KO's you get and the fact is wlad is still beating people down in title fights. that counts for something in this discussion. Joe Louis is probably the only guy on this list with more championship KO's.

 

You know the answer to this question as much as I do. Wlad doesnt have a great chin. thats why he doesnt stop more guys early. He is afraid to get caught and therefore holds back on his power shots until his man is more fatigued. he doesnt do this because he lacks power, he does this because he lacks chin and focuses more on defense.

This does not take away from him stopping guys though.

 

Dont forget though that wlad hasn't exactly been fighting world beaters. Thats not his fault at all but it needs to be taken into consideration. George Foreman has 68 KO's in 76 fights. When george foreman ko'd someone. it was EARLY. title fight or not. no matter who he fought. if he ko'd someone it was early. The same goes with Shavers. These guys have a similar KO % as Wlad. Yet all their KO's came early. This is the case with all the big hitters!

Im not saying wlad getting ko's late is a slight on him. Im just saying we are discussing hardest hitters in heavyweight history. this needs to be taken into consideration

 

I also want to say one thing about shavers. He may well be the hardest hitting heavy but when he stepped up he lost and he didnt KO championship guys.

The fact that foreman and Louis did IMO makes a big difference in this consideration. Shavers has a heavily padded resume. He has no reign at all. IMo this detracts from his accomplishment. In this regard I would rate Joe louis higher than him.

So if I was to rank these guys I would have.

1) Foreman
2) Louis
3) Shavers
then it is up for discussion I would say Wlad has a chance at 4-6

 

I concur with your post and i would say IMO foreman deserves the #1 spot without a doubt. When big george laid into you, it was early and brutal. Oh and Joe Louis wasnt exactly beating world beaters either in the bum of the month club, we dont hate on Joe Louis though do we

 

Very fair point. The thing that gives Shavers an edge is the fact that pretty much every mutual opponent of his and foremans say Shavers hit the hardest.
But i cant argue with your top 3 tbh.

I would personally have wlad outside the top 5. It just shocked me a great deal to see wlad getting nearly as many votes as big george. In my eyes its not even debatable that wlad isn't close to the kind of power george possessed.