Who hits harder p4p, Stanley Ketchel or Deontay Wilder

I don't think there styles are particularly similar.

Ketchel was an aggressive infighter (not against Papke) who always sought his opponents out. He had decent enough ring IQ to create the triple shift and know to hold against Papke. He uses more hooks than Wilder and from what I've read he throws alot more punches. His Defence is also a bit better, as is his chin (pfp).

Wilder on the other hand is usually quite patient and let's his opponents come to him and make a mistake, he rarely seeks them out. He's an incredibly poor infighter with an even worse ring IQ. When he seeks out his opponent he uses brutal straights as opposed to Ketchel's hooks. He has much worse footwork but seems to close the distance better, basically through pure speed.

But to answer your question, Wilder. By quite a distance.

 

This. All of trainers at the fight factory tried to point out to Wilder how good footwork and ring efficiency could make his fights easier and also keep him from wasting energy, but Wilder had to be one of the most stubborn athletes I’ve ever seen, which is saying something, since I’ve worked with and recruited high school and college athletes for several years.

On to Wilder’s power I’d give him the advantage over Ketchel in raw power, but to be fair to Ketchel his superior timing means he’s more likely to land his power than Wilder, who often has to waste a ridiculous amount of energy to land clean, which almost cost him against both Ortiz and Fury, since he was showing a lot of fatigue in both fights from over throwing punches over and over again.

To prove a point my coach had Wilder spar with Ronald Gavril, who didn’t have any trouble avoiding Wilder’s right hand and countered Wilder every time he missed.

 

Interesting. Care to explain more?

 

How in the world would anyone know this?

 

Hypotheticals my man. Like most of the forum.

 

In the Ortiz fight I knew Ortiz was going to take the fight to Wilder and wasn’t going to make it easy. But, Wilder’s poor footwork and ring awareness for a couple of rounds almost made it easy for Ortiz to beat him to the punch and counter him.

Ortiz also was smart and went to Wilder’s body early, which is why Wilder started looking a little sluggish in the middle rounds. But, I will give Wilder credit, since his stubbornness is both an asset and a liability. Wilder was confident that he could take everything Ortiz threw at him and Ortiz would wear down eventually and become an easier target for his right hand, which happened, but what an unnecessary and risky gamble.

Against Fury Wilder really lucked out, since Fury was showboating as much as he fighting, which is why Roach looked pissed at the end of the fight and indirectly criticized Fury by criticizing Davison, who seems like a good guy and is knowledgeable about the sport, but I think it’s way too soon for him to be a head trainer.

Fury let Wilder get away with overthrowing his right hand over and over again without countering him enough. Also, Wilder’s wasteful footwork and wide punches had him winded and after the second knockdown on Fury he was completely out of energy and couldn’t even capitalize while Fury was still full of energy and was able fight Wilder off due to him being more efficient throughout the fight.

Wilder knew he was down going into the 12th round against Fury, since he did the unthinkable and actually followed Breland’s instructions for once, which is amazing, since Wilder hates Breland, but Breland’s instructions worked, since he went to Fury’s body and put his punches together and got the knockdown.

 

I'm guessing Wilder. Power is his only ATG attribute. That's assuming he lands clean.

 

The only thing i respect in Wilder is his rt. hand power

 

The only person I'd say that has a similar sense of power P4P, is Julian Jackson

 

Wilder might be the hardest hitter of all time.

But when you break it down he's only actually fought 2/3 top opponents. And he's failed to stop 2 of them.

 

Jimmy Wilde and Bob Fitzsimmons say hello.

 

We know that Wilder's a huge puncher but given his level of opposition we don't really know how huge. Still I'll give him the benefit of the doubt & go with Wilder. As George said Ketchel was the better fighter though by a country mile & a genuine psycho.

 

I'd also have him below all of them, as well as Wlad, Lewis and Baer