Who hits harder p4p, Stanley Ketchel or Deontay Wilder

Since we're talking punching power, I'll leave you with this. All the best punchers fight their share of bums.

Who was worst 'bum' - George's word - to go the distance with Wilder? It was the then-reigning WBC Heavyweight Champion and #2 Ring ranked Bermane Stiverne (who Wilder floored and hospitalized).

Who was the worst 'bum' who went the distance with Baer, Shavers, Liston and Foreman? Anyone lower than the Ring #2 rated heavyweight? (Would it be fair to say A LOT of guys lower than the Ring #2 rated heavyweight?)

Who was the best fighter Baer, Shavers, Liston and Foreman knocked out? (Arguably Schmeling, Norton (Shavers), Patterson, and Frazier (Foreman).

So, all Wilder has to do is knock out someone who people consider better than Schmeling, Norton, Patterson or Frazier?

Knocking out Ring #1 Tyson Fury would probably tick a couple boxes. Wouldn't it?

If the worst guy to go the distance with Wilder is the #2 rated Ring contender and the best fighter he KOs is the #1 rated/lineal champ, that's kind of hard to top, right?

Best puncher ever.

Really got to go. See ya.

 

Yes or no, outside of Ortiz and Breazeale, Wilder has stopped top opponents?

Great. What's your point? Coz the one your making is ridiculous.
Outside of Ortiz and maybe Breazeale who has Wilder stopped?

You think Wilder has a better chin than George Foreman. My view on what goes on today's boxing is far from the issue here.

It's excellent, he's very consistent and always brings it.

Again what's your point?

I'm aware. One day you'll realise that I'm on the other side and can see how Flawed Wilder is.

 

Wilder has never gone the distance with someone I'd call a bum. So don't put Words in my mouth.

Baer - probably Natie Brown
Liston - probably Ponce de Leon
Shavers - probably Rahim Muhammad
Foreman - probably Roberto Davila

But given that all of these fighters have stopped better fighters than Wilder has your point is pretty pathetic.

Yes and No. If he does super.
Shavers, for example, power is also rated from fighters who fought multiple killers.
Wilder can also do this, given he shares an era with multiple hard punchers.

Let me know when Fury gets a résumé to match Schmeling, Patterson, Norton, Moorer or Frazier's.

That's a no by the way.

 

Think in real time, George.

Again, if the worst guy to go the distance with Wilder is the #2 rated Ring contender and the best fighter he KOs is the #1 rated/lineal champ, that'll be kind of hard to top, right?

We'll see.

Talk to you later. I'm late.

 

Not too far off as impressive as Max Baer knocking out Louis, though Foreman knocking out Ali is a good notch above.

 

And? The were still better KOs.

And if we're talking weight of a fight and out for minutes on end...
Foreman vs Moorer>>>>

 

Not really. When the best rated guy is Stiverne (who was 36...) And the number 1 rated guy is someone who struggled with Wallin, hasn't beaten anyone but a past it Klitschko.

No it's not hard to top. Something like Sam Langford moving up from welterweight to heavyweight scoring over a 100 KOs with HoFers among them is hard to top.

Wilder going the distance with Stiverne and Fury is not.

 

I disagree with them.

All irrelevant. And Walcott is definitely not the slickest Heavyweight ever.

I disagree. Wilder vs Splika was a brilliant KO. As was Kiltschko vs Pulev

But anyway, there is no real way of arguing this, it's litterally an opinion

 

What can I say. It wouldn't be right for me to give Marciano credit...

No but I do think it's overrated, I think Charles vs Walcott 3 was better as we're a good 5 others at HW (regardless of who were fighting) and there's probably close to 20 below HW.

 

Blasphemy. Take that back, or be cursed by the Boxing God