Who holds the most amazing record in boxing?

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Who has the most amazing record in boxing in your opinion?

  1. Many Pacquiao who is 7 Divisions World Champion.

    33 vote(s)
    43.4%
  2. Floyd Mayweather who holds the perfect record of 50-0.

    9 vote(s)
    11.8%
  3. Julio C. Chavez Sr. at his prime when he held the record of 87- 0.

    9 vote(s)
    11.8%
  4. Rocky Marciano who had the perfect record of 49-0.

    3 vote(s)
    3.9%
  5. Bernard Hopkins who became the Oldest World Champion in the history of boxing.

    6 vote(s)
    7.9%
  6. Roy Jones Jr. when he became the World HW Champion who came from the MW division.

    11 vote(s)
    14.5%
  7. Joe Calzaghe who beat both Hopkins and Jones and then retired undefeated.

    5 vote(s)
    6.6%
  8. Andre Ward who was 2 Divisions World Champions and retired undefeated.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There have been many Greatest World Champions who owned amazing records in boxing. Who do you think that he impressed you the most? and why?
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilfred Benitez winning the world championship by outboxing Hall of Famer Antonio Cervantes over 15 rounds when Wilfred was only 17 years old is pretty amazing.

    It's not like Wilfred won a vacant WBA "interim" "regular" belt from some no-name because the no-name twisted his knee in the third round and quit.

    And it's not like Cervantes didn't reign again for years after Benitez moved up. Cervantes wasn't finished.

    Pretty great accomplishment.
     
  3. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm voting B-hop.

    I highly doubt that record will be broken anytime soon, but it's a toss up between him and Pacquaio.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Wilfred Benitez winning a world championship by beating a HOFer at 17 is impressive.

    Jimmy Wilde going 102-0 is really impressive.

    Ray Robinson going 44-13-1 against top ten competition.

    Archie Moore getting 135 knockouts.

    Manny Pacquiao being an 8 weight champ.

    Mickey Walker fighting from welterweight to heavyweight. Along with Roberto Duran fighting from lightweight to super-middleweight, or Tommy Hearns fighting from welterweight to cruiserweight, and Henry Armstrong fighting from featherweight to middleweight.

    Jimmy Bivins amazing competitive level during an undefeated streak from 1942 to 1946.

    Len Wickwar's 470 pro fights.

    Bernard Hopkins becoming the oldest titleholder at 49.

    Jack Burke and Andy Bowen fighting a seven hour 110 round bout in 1893.

    Joe Louis' 11 year 7 month 25 defense reign.

    LaMar Clark 44 consecutive knockouts.

    Peter Maher 50 first round knockouts.

    Laszlo Papp, Teofilo Stevenson, and Felix Savon's 3 Olympic gold medals.

    Saensak Muangsurin and Veeraphol Sahaprom both earned world titles in their 3rd fights.

    Emile Griffith fought 339 title fight rounds.

    Sam Langford and Harry Wills fought each other 23 times.

    Ted Kid Lewis fought 58 times in 1911, although Harry Greb's 44 fights in 1919 was pretty sick as well.
     
  5. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @OvidsExile Thanks for the long answer above but who impressed you the most then?
     
  6. pincai

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    Manny Pacquiao.
    I bet in my lifetime I will never see a flyweight from a third world country jumping to welterweight dominating big names, break box office and become a worldwide icon.
    Even in the era or future era of performance enhancing drug.

    Not to mention the political career during and after boxing.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Ruby winning the MW championship then the HW championship.

    Armstrong being the reigning FW, LW and WW champion.
     
  8. Vykus

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    Not on the list, but Ali and Holyfield, alongside Pacquiao, have pretty amazing records considering how competitive they were against top-ranked opposition throughout their careers. No one can ever accuse these 3 guys of dodging anyone or taking an easy path.
     
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  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac winning all those titles is probably the most impressive on that list but it's hard to really pick one, so many great records.

    Tyson winning the title at 20 is insane.

    Foreman winning the Olympic title inside 2 years of first stepping into a boxing gym is ludicrous. It's like some 20 year old kid now stepping into a gym then winning gold at the 2020 Tokyo games.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I have to go with Ray Robinson as the most consistently accomplished fighter overall, fighting the best competition. Then when you factor in he's top 10 in terms of several different records like knockouts, win streaks, and weight climbing. I think he holds the record for regaining the middleweight title the most times 4 or 5, like Ali and Holyfield have for the heavyweight title.

    Although, sometimes you look at Ezzard Charles, Harry Greb, or Henry Armstrong's dance card and they are just sick, that Jimmy Bivins 4 year run is really amazing. A long undefeated streak with a ton of great names on it is the most impressive to me. I like that Kid Azteca and Roberto Duran fought hundreds of times or in five different decades but the consistency of the opposition isn't quite as strong. That's why I love Emile Griffith and Holman Williams. Williams didn't win them all but just look at what he attempted! He beat Cocoa Kid, Booker, Burley, Marshall, Chase, Moore, and Satterfield and he's fighting some of them like Moore two, Burley seven, and Cocoa thirteen times. He's fighting LaMotta, Cerdan, anyone who would get in the ring with him.

    However, I really like the guys who punch above their weight like Duran and Walker did. Mickey Walker is 5'7" but he's consistently knocking out legit top ten heavyweights. What is this kid made of? He doesn't have the dominant reign or the number of victories of some other guys. He didn't defend the middleweight title that many times because he would rather mix it up with the top lightheavyweights and heavyweights. There's no one else in history who regularly took on guys that much bigger than them and had anything like that kind of success. I'm not sure exactly how to quantify that as a record though.

    My two cents: the most impressive feat in boxing was either beating the most top guys like Greb, Langford, and Robinson or beating the most guys who had major size/reach/weight advantages over you like Walker or Duran.
     
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  12. Farmboxer

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    Pac

    Wilder holds the record for beating more winos from the alley in boxing history!
     
  13. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @OvidsExile It seems to me like you have a bunch of knowledge about boxing history. If you impressed the smaller guys who could beat the bigger guys then Rocky Marciano could be one of your favourite fighters.
     
  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    The problem with Marciano is that his four best opponents were nearly forty and way past prime. He reigned in this little pocket between generations where there wasn't a lot of talent at heavyweight. He's the only elite guy of his time. He's beating up the old guys of the previous generation who are ten years older, and then retiring before the next generation with Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston come around. His technique is horrible, and his resume doesn't impress. Also, he's not that much smaller than most of his opponents. Him and his opponents would all be cruiserweights today.
     
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  15. Robney

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    Nice roundup @OvidsExile

    I think it's commendable that Floyd has convinced so many people that his minor record is of such importance.
    It's way off the longest winning streak in boxing. It's way off the longest undefeated streak in boxing. It's not even the best undefeated retirement record. The significance of Marciano's 49-0 is that it is the Heavyweight undefeated streak record, and the undefeated retirement without a draw or NC thing was just a secondary minor one.

    From the list I think Chavez' 87-0 or rather 89-0-1 is the best, but there are bigger acomplishments beyond that.