Who holds the most amazing record in boxing?

From the list you provided I selected Roy but
could've easily selected Manny as well.

I give Roy's accomplishments more weight (pun intended)
because it was done at a higher weight, which IMO is
far harder to accomplish due to the heavier weight,
sturdier bodies and harder punchers the higher you go up.
Pac went from 108 to 147 (152******* against a non ranked
no win Margarito), but Roy went from 154 to
200+ (and Ruiz was 230ish I believe when they
fought and a legit top 5 HW at the time).

I think Willie Pep or Sugar R. Robinson's records and
careers as a whole are far bigger accomplishments however.

 

Roy tested positive for steroids, so his legacy takes a hit. And Roy didn't give up significant size advantages to most of his opponents like Pacquiao did/does.

 

No one in boxing believes Roy's legacy is taking a hit from anything. Roy is lauded by damn
near all of his peers as the most physically gifted boxer ever. I'd love for you
to say that to a pro boxer, they'll laugh at you. Also, Roy was a big MW,
he was not a big SMW and was an undersized LHW and fought a HW titlist
that was 50 pounds heavier. Please take your clear bias and go elsewhere.

 

Benitez winning the lineal title against Antonio Cervantez, a LEGITIMATE HOFer and ATG JWW at just 17. I'm sorry, but that record is never gonna be broken and it's clearly the most impressive in all of boxing history... the man(err boy) was only 17 years old..

2nd would probably have to be Joe Louis title reign, 3rd would probably be Pacquaio being a lineal 115 pound champion and winning belts all the way up to WW. I don't really count the fake belt he won against Margarito, both of them weren't even ranked at 154 yet they fought for the vacant green belt at a catchweight? How the **** does that make sense. I do count his ring belts at 126 and 140 though even though the ring isn't a real belt. Hatton at 140 and Barrera at 126 were as legit world champs as they come and top in their respective divisions. Barrera just dropped the green belt he won from Morales and Hatton should of had the red belt after beating Malignaggi.

 

The Fighting Senator!

 

Pacquiao's achievement is the most astonishing. Voted Manny.

 

You mean the illiterate Senator. I’m not a PAC hater nor am I a Floyd fan. I just find it crazy that Filipinos are okay with voting for a 3rd grade educated senator.

 

I'm not Filipino so I can't speak for them.
But in my opinion, it's the heart that counts. The smarter the politician is normally the smaller it's heart gets.
And I use 'it's as equal to animal.

 

Just checked his wikipedia page. He dropped out of school at 14, but until 2011 I think average education in the Philippines ended at age 15 so he wouldn't be unusual. He went back and got his GED in 2007, enrolled in some business classes at a university, got an honorary doctorate, then he enrolled in a graduate program in law and governance ahead of becoming a senator. Manny has actually been building schools in his senatorial district with his own money since then so I guess that's one reason he's so popular.

 

Thanks for making this thread. Great topic and interesting reading.

For what it's worth. My vote goes to Pacquiao ... taking into account the difficulty of coming up from nothing in the Philippines. A little bit like Diego Maradona, who achieved what he did despite coming from a difficult background in a less developed country.

 

This would be my pick. After that I really rate Jones's Heavyweight win. People take it for granted.

Then Pac, then Hopkins, then Chavez & Floyd/Marciano, then the rest IMO.

 

Ray Robinson's 91 straight bouts without a defeat, between losing to Lamotta in his 41st bout to losing to Turpin in his 132nd bout.

The official undefeated streak record goes to a Spaniard Pedro Carrasco, but it's of course not nearly as impressive as Robinson's streak, because he only won a Euro championship over that period, and also importantly, when he challenged Mando Ramos for a world title he won it on the floor, via an apparent acting job DQ. Jimmy Wilde had a streak of 103, but that was mostly in the 1910s, with many of those now acknowledged wins only unofficial 'newspaper' decisions, and that was also let's admit still a pioneering era. Chavez's 87-0 record to start his career is of course special, but far more of those fights than Robinson's weren't against world class opposition. Robinson's streak covered his absolute peak, includes wins over dozens of top level opponents in the golden era of boxing, several HOFers; he established himself as probably the greatest ww ever, then moved up and continued his dominance at middleweight. It's what best numerically captures the greatness of the greatest boxer of all time.

Close second...
Most bouts: Len Wickwar, 470. This is insane. 100 more recorded pro bouts than the next most. In an era in the 1930s when a lot of boxers fought every two weeks he was getting in the ring every week, and he did that for close to a decade. I always thought Greb if unofficially then Willie Pep had the most wins ever, but Wickwar I see has the record for most wins too. Why isn't this common knowledge?

 

Of the ones mentioned, Manny’s and then Roy’s are my picks. Seven divisions is really insane when you think about it. And Roy going from 160 to take the HW crown (albeit against a safe opponent) is wild too.

Don’t see how Ward belongs on there, as Floyd trumps him in divisions and wins.

 

Of the ones mentioned, Manny’s and then Roy’s are my picks. Seven divisions is really insane when you think about it. And Roy going from 160 to take the HW crown (albeit against a safe opponent) is wild too.

Don’t see how Ward belongs on there, as Floyd trumps him in divisions and wins.