Who in boxing wasted their talent?

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  1. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm actually a big fan of his but Corrie Sanders I believe could have achevied a lot more.
     
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mando Ramos - it was said that he never met a drink, a drug or a woman he didn't like. Washed up at 24.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Jose Luis Lopez. Nuff said.
     
  4. Roughhouse

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    I'll take Oliver "Atomic Dog" McCall for $300, Alex.
     
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  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with all of these. Tyson had the ability to focus and keep winning for another 2 or 3 years and that would have helped his legacy. Camacho? I am surprised he let that one punch from Rosario change him so much. Rosario's punch was probably so much harder than anyone else who would have fought him. Nunn? Sometimes I think the Kalambay fight got to his rhythm. You would think a loss would do it, but he actually thought he could punch after that and it changed the way he fought a little and it made him more flatfooted. I remember how much Roldan hit him. When he beat Tate, I would have thought Roldan wouldn't touch him at all.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Tyson would have stayed undefeated welll into his 30`s if Rooney had stayed in his corner.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maybe. Although then he has to deal with a big Lennox and Bowe, which were big guys. The one guy I thought who could have beaten him was a little better than everyone he fought in the early years like 1987?.. He was Tim Witherspoon. Just the style and size of Tim.. The right hand and Tim in shape and motivated gives Mike a tough tough fight. And Mike would have a hard time stopping Tim.
     
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  8. Balder

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    Dempsey.

    Took way to much time off after he became champ, and milked it , wasting his greatest years.
     
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  9. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toney had a great career but was out of shape a lot later on.
     
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  10. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm convinced the Nunn style change---he went from gliding around the ring to a slugger--was due to management. The Goosen's were new on the scene and not power brokers. Later on they became a force but not then. Showtime would have preferred slugging to boxing a guys ears off for 12 rounds & the Goosens did not the pull at that time to tell them our guy does what he does.

    I think they tried to please the networks and had Michael turn flatfooted. Remember that Barkley fight---that guy should have been made to order for a tall southpaw that circled the ring. But Nunn was trading. And fighting in the pocket. Same thing with Roldan---Nunn is trying to back the guy up from the opening bell.

    As a boxer, Nunn was a special talent. As a slugger, he wasn't. Every now and then he'd glide around the ring and show his mobility and legs were still there. But then he'd be planting those feet again and trading hooks. So I really don't think his legs had gone, but maybe those legs had actually deteriorated by that much. I just could not pick up on it, but maybe others see something I'm missing. I am of the conscious effort to change style as opposed to the physical subtraction point of view with Nunn.

    I'm also of the opinion that a trainer that loves boxers--an Angie Dundee or a Ritchie Giachetti--could have done a wonderful job with him. But not the Goosen's.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tim wasn`t as big as Bowe or Lewis and he didn`t have Lewis`s power, also Ruddock was bigger than Tim and more powerful, Bowe was to easy to hit to beat Tyson, Lewis was slightly harder to hit but was caught often by fighters that didn`t have Mike`s hand speed.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Dundee did train Nunn for several fights, he was in his corner when he lost to Toney.
     
  13. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But not for the early development from the word go. And he did not have a long tenureship with the guy, not several.
     
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Never been understood theyWho myth of Tony Ayala. Good fighter, nothing more or less.
     
  15. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely Greg Page and Howard Davis jr. With a side order of Donald Curry.