Who In History Goes Through De La Hoya's Resume Undefeated?

But again - it's the Hopkins that beat De La Hoya - not the earlier Hopkins who was highly active, power punching and looking to finish opponents.

Mayweather Jr vs Hopkins would be a step too far, I agree - Hopkins would beat Floyd Mayweather Jr but I still say Floyd has pretty much the best chance as a guy who maintained his ability through a number of weight classes and across the years to do it.

 

No one cause they are not beating Hopkins coming from that weight.

 

Hearns and Leonard would have a far better shot at beating Hopkins. Mayweather just doesn't have the style to do it, nor the size.

 

Hearns with his chin issues post 154 would have struggles with Hopkins who could find a chin and capitalise on it.

Leonard was prone to having off nights.

Not to mention, both of these guys would be in a hell of a fight to win against Floyd.

 

Yes maybe Leonard. But I don't see Hearns doing it, he gets knocked out by Hop imo.

This is a very good topic btw. Finally something new.

 

When I say prime I mean to remember what they were at the peak of their skills. Everyone has off nights but some fighters (especially the ones who fought way too many times and for way too long) are remembered the wrong way. Then there are the oddballs like Hopkins, who I think was actually better in the later half of his career. I would pick second half of career Hopkins to out think and out box first half Hops and I would pick first half SRR to completely obliterate second half SRR.

 

But, then you could argue that De La Hoya wasn't in his prime - resume for me is about going through the same weights, the same time span, etc.

Otherwise, you can take a guy like Roy Jones Jr and assert that he would never ever lose a single fight.

I think the topic is better when you take into account the weight span and age span, because then you're taking boxers who had lonevity in their career and were able to go up in weight and retain their success, just like De La Hoya (initially)

 

Hearns and Leonard would deal with Floyd comfortably at 147, Floyd doesn't have the tools to win either of those fights, as he went up in weight he lost his work rate. Hearns is too rangey, had a great jab, and the big one, he knew how to let his hands go, not too mention pulverising power. Same goes for Leonard, he flurried too well for someone with the low work rate of Mayweather to have any chance.

Leonard was prone to off nights but the Leonard that fought Hagler still had great handspeed and movement and knew how to flurry/use a workrate. The Leonard that fought Hagler would have given Hopkins hell.

Hearns jab, handspeed and combination punching would have given Hopkins hell as well, though his chin is always a risk.

Mayweather would be nowhere near as effective against Hopkins. He is too reserved offensively at 147 to have a chance against a bigger guy like that.

 

I guess there is alot to consider for this topic. Hmmmm...Sam Langford started pretty small i believe, maybe I will go with him.:tong

 

Floyd went up in weight and adjusted his fight style to win against the competition he had. Don't discount his ring intelligence, it's why he's able to win on ocassions where the situation isn't working to the way he wants.

 

So by saying this, even if pacquiao would weight a little bit more, do you really think with all his defense flaws he has you think he could beat a prime ssm? not a prime hopkins but a heavier hopkins with very good defense? Based on matchup styles i dont see him beating sugar shane, hopkins, withaker, mayweather, chavez, and he might beat tito, it would be a war but the first 4 i mentioned i dont see him beating them, he might beat the old chavez but even whitaker at 33 i cant see him beating, hopkins wasnt prime when he fought oscar but still very good and heavier than oscar and his style wouldnt matchup well for pac, prime sugar shane would be very difficult, sugar style is wrong for pacman as well as mayweather, they both can exploid defense flaws, mayweather more but mosley can go to war with that granite chin he has, i would favor all of them against pac even if pac were a naturally bigger than now, those guys (ssm, fmj, hopkins, whitaker) are all wrong for pacman style so i dont know why you think pac could pull it off... odlh style matched up better against those guys than pacs does and oscar has better chin than pac has and still he couldnt do it, so i dont get it... and i am not a pac hater jmho..

 

How can you guys be speculating about Leonard and Hearns when they couldn't even make the 130lb weight? How could they beat the 130 guys on Hoya's resume if they couldn't even make it into the ring with them?

 

Yup.

Why not throw RJJ in there? He was 154 in the olympics.