Who in history would've beaten Roy Jones @ 168 or 175

clowns like anglo are making people hate calzaghe more by the day. i hate the **** out of him but I'll give him his due. he'd be a VERY tough fight for roy. unfortunately for him the last tough fight roy had in his prime was griffin: calzaghe would **** jones off enough for him to actually try and brutalize him over the late rounds

 

I was thinking of Michael Moorer. I do think that he would have a shot to beat Roy at 175 hell he was undefeated at the weight with all KO's and went on to have success at heavy. I thought that other people were also thinking of michael moorer but saying moore.

 

I am not dissing JC's talent. He is a hell of a fighter. He could have hung with the guys RJJ faced. Thing is that he didn't. He stayed over there being healthy and unchallenged. Then he cleaned up on guys AFTER they put massive mileage on.

Imagine had a fighter of RJJ's caliber done the same? Beating Toney and Hopkins alone is amazing.

He would have never recovered from that with prime Roy.

 

if they had fought in 1999, jones would have beaten him and calzaghe would go down as another euro-bum. got to say, he made the smart play

 

Can't knock his hustle in that respect. :good

 

I think Jones may have finished Calzaghe early on the night he knocked Griffin out... Had he been that pissed off.

He was a very scary man on that night, that was walking through punches like nothing, just to get the angle to rip his head off with one shot, which incidentally happened in the first round.:yep:good

 

wow, this is messed up. we both agree that calzaghe was a genius! come on headbanger, we're praising your boy! staying away from all those big scary americans was brilliant:rofl

 

i thought all his talk of "RJ" was bull**** posturing...until i saw that fight. he had a mr. hyde to him that night and no one save ezzard charles himself could have taken that man at 175

 

I personally think Jones is much like Tyson. In his prime it is hard to see any man overcoming them. In the same breath there are guys who are talented.

Hey man, boxing is a business. As much as I respect great matchups I understand if they don't make business sense. I don't think ANYBODY was getting favorable contracts versus a prime RJJ.

You have to respect JC's business savvy. All of the credit. None of the losses. His legacy will suffer though.

 

Yeah, a guy protecting a glass jaw does not put his hands down like that and walk through another quality fighter like that, just to load up for one shot.

People that say Jones had no plan B, or had to deal with adversity need to watch the first Griffin fight.. He certainly troubled Jones in the first fight, but Jones was on his way to a KO win there too.

That was how a prime Jones dealt with a loss, against a very good fighter that doesn't get enough credit, Griffin was the man at the time and undefeated. And I actually think he was temporarily ranked high in P4P rankings after the first fight with Roy. That Roy, on that night, was a dangerous man. That was a prime Jones' plan B. Don't box him, try to kill him.:yep:good

 

deal

 

Roy honestly just stuck his face out there and walked through a guy that rocked him a few good times in the first fight..

He just lost a shade of reflex dropping back down to LHW, there is a big difference with a 28 year old Jones coming back from a tough fight, to a 34 year old Jones, who so happened to be up against a fighter that dedicated his whole life to beating him.

I give Tarver credit, but he never beat the best Jones, as a matter of fact, the best versions of Jones, totally outclassed his great counterparts.:yep

 

good post and fair analysis of tarver. you get the feeling tarver could have died happy after that win, that was his ****ing LIFE! and then glen johnson went and did it to and it seemed a little less impressive...

 

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I wonder if this Joe gives a prime Jones any problems ..:huh

 

Yep, I thought it was one of the greatest wins of all time right when it happened. But after what Johnson did to Roy, I then took into consideration all the fights after he dropped back from HW, and realized he really lost something. I wanted to believe he was gonna snap out of it so bad, but he was just too far gone.

His legs were the biggest thing for me, his hands were still fast but he just seemed too stationary, and was being pushed around the ring instead of being the ring general he had always been,when he used to totally dumbfound fighters with his position and ability to control the ring. Roy's legs were the other half of that insane hand speed. Prime Roy used to go to the ropes as part of his strategy, old Roy did it for a crutch because he had no legs, and would try to rest but get pummeled instead.

When I saw him start winning matches against D level fighters, I realized he was totally gone, guys he would have killed like he did Glenn Kelly, he was struggling with, and a totally bloated Trinidad, that he would have totally knocked out in the day gave him a decent fight at times.

It was surely hard for me to grasp being a Roy fan like i am, I give Tarver the most credit because he did it first, but looking at it, totally unbiased, I honestly don't think that was the Roy Jones of old.