Who in the history of boxing would you favor over Hearns at 147-154?

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  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Don't know man...Forrest almost had a prime Mosley out there...Im confident that if that was Hearns, Shane would of been laid the **** out.
     
  2. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar was really good at a lot of things. But he just doesn't strike me as outright dominant enough when it comes to speed, power, and athleticism. I think at those weights, you have to be really exceptional at a few things to have a realistic chance of beating the jab, avoiding the right hand, working your way inside, and giving yourself a shot.
     
  3. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leaving the Sugars aside, beyond McCallum I think you'd have to look towards fighters who fought around 154 but before the inaugral champions of the 60s.

    The likes of Burley, Cerdan and Greb are the ones that come to mind, but there's not a huge amount of footage to go on. Ketchell fought in the 150s when he first claimed the middleweight title, but looks far too crude from the footage to trouble Hearns under modern rules without excessive clinching.
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A prime Mayorga would have vernon forrest him. Believe that. LOL












































    In all seriousness, no one today would be up to the challenge.
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    mosley was too short, vernon forrest all over all night
     
  6. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Homicide Hank:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL_viXLxrm8[/ame]
     
  7. brownshell

    brownshell Active Member Full Member

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    I've seen both Hearns and Tito in their primes from beginning to end.
    If Hearns decides to box he can beat Tito and ko/stop him late.
    If he decides to fight it's a matter of who catches who cleanly first Hearns striaght right or Tito's left hook. If it's a fight, I'm betting Tito will get up.
    Hearns won't.
     
  8. Beatle

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    I would also favor Pernell Whitaker over Hearns at 147.

    Also, Bladegunner has a point in suggesting Ricardo Mayorga. Here's a reminder of what he did to Vernon Forrest, who also had long arms but got caught inside by too many Mayorga bombs:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Mz2dgGU_o[/ame]
     
  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal End of Thread.
     
  10. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I don't see why you see the Tito pick as being pulled out of someones ass. You have a big durable welterweight who is perhaps one of the finest composite punchers in the history of the welterweight division. Mixes it up well to the head and body, and for the most part is a very good finisher. The left hook doesn't need to be talked about, the right hand was one of the best during his time at 147 and his jab is by no means sloppy either. You want someone with the physical tools to take down Hearns, Tito is your man. The gap in skill and Tito's own early invulnerability is what makes me shy away from making him an outright favourite against the best Hearns at 147 who was already struggling to make the weight. Tito vs Leonard, Curry, Robinson etc, the great movers at 147, I'm not picking him. Against Hearns I'd just favour him and I'd stick by that prediction.

    Leonard beat Hearns two different ways that night. Hearn's can't do anything to beat a prime Leonard at 147. Get to 160 and above and I'll pick Hearns every day over Leonard but not at 147 and 154.

    Robinson is just all round better than Hearns, his physical tools are also shocking.

    I don't know when Hearns wasn't disciplined. He sticks to gameplan's well and if anything is perhaps too disciplined. McCallum was a brilliant all round fighter and his body attack would wear Hearns down. That being said I'm not guaranteeing McCallum pulling anything out of the hat.

    Duran...can't see it ending too differently. More disciplined Duran coming into the fight, might be slightly more interesting.

    I'd also stick a prime Jackson into the mix. I'd probably favour Hearns but I'd doubt my pick on an oft basis I think.
     
  11. Fan88

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    I think Sergio could trouble him. I don't trust Hearns' chin and he could get blindsided by a Martinez missile left and be seriously hurt.


    Obviously this would be at 154. I don't see Hearns being able to take the amount of damage that William's took in Williams-Martinez I and not be stopped.


    Sergio has never legitimately been defeated at 154. His only real loss was at WW.