Who in the last ten years was stronger than Liston?

Overpowering sub 200 pound guys and having relatively large biceps = stronger than Wlad.

 

How do you measure strength ?
And boxing specific strength is almost impossible to guage until you put the two men together.

 

To be fair, as strong as Wlad undoubtedly looks his strength is used as a neutralizing tool rather than utilised as the over powering factor.

Where is strength measured in boxing? It is not a power event.

Are we asking what champion can bench the most weight and if we are how does that relate to winning a fight???

Liston qualifies as a powerhouse. He was a strong puncher who forced himself upon his victims with very heavy handed, strong punches.

For all we know David bey might beat him in an arm wrestle. I dont know what that would mean in respect to whom was the strongest boxer.

 

As has been said, depends on what you mean. Ability to lift weight in different ways? Plenty of today's much larger HWs who train with weights to a high degree will have him beat here.

Functional strength as in muscling the other guy around in the ring? More factors at play here, but generally the bigger guy will outmuscle the smaller. This was no different for Liston, who pushed his smaller opponents around in a way he couldnt to with the larger ones. And they would be small with today's standard.

 

Good lord, Liston is overrated like mad.

The man was the same size as Chris Byrd. Get a grip.

 

why? Because the height and weight?. The fists of sonny were giant,his frame was pretty big, i think also that liston is overrated as boxer but the guy was big and strong,said by foreman

 

Exactly how would you measure this:huh

 

Foreman talked good words about anyone. He also said he avoided Quarry like the plague. What do giant fists have to do with ****? Gerry ****y had smaller fists than Jimmy Young.

 

But Wlad does overpower, his leaning and pushing drains the **** out of guys. But I get what you mean. Also how do you quantize strength between divisions 50 years apart? Heavier people (unless obese) do tend to be stronger so I can guess there are a lot of men much stronger than Liston these days. Educated guess since we can't and haven't quantized strength of boxers any way. He was a powerhouse for his time, how he'd be in modern boxing. God knows. Maybe if he gets reborn as a Russian he becomes a great cruiser, maybe he'd have trouble with bigger taller stronger guys at heavyweight. Physically people have changed over 50 years, and a lot of the 40s/50s heavyweights grew up during the great depression which may explain why that time period had a big lack of real giants. Edit: I use paragraps but when I post they all disappear. Any way to fix that? It's very ugly and disorganized this way

 

If he's reborn as American, big chance. Reborn as Eastern European. He'd be a cruiser.

 

I dont think they have changed. Training has changed. Lifestyle has changed.

There was giants then, there always has been its just that the training, equipment and rules did not favour giants so much as it does in this era.


There is also a division nobody wants to fight in called cruiserweight so guys bulk up to bypass it.

The average height of people has changed less in some nations than it has in others. America was the dominating nation at Heavyweight and they produced taller bigger people among the working classes because standard of living was greater than in Europe. There was never a global shortage of giants in the world population but there were less at world level standard in boxing before 1984. This is two seperate issues.

 

gerry ****ey was tall but fragile, just a long guy, liston was wide and big, and foreman did not talk well about anyone .

 

C00ney wasn't that fragile. C00ney didn't look fragile when he gave a prime Holmes life and death after one rounds worth of ring work in a 20 month period. He might have looked fragile after it. Nobody knows what Gerry might have been if he were more active going into that war. It was a ludicrous prep for a world title fight but such was the demand and profile that was heaped upon him that too many corners were cut making a title fight. To gerrys detriment as it turned out.

 

probably the most irrelevant argument ever... It has nothing to do with being naturally wide,or big framed,

 

I thought C00ney looked very fragile in round 2 when Holmes gave him the right hand and he did a chicken dance.