Who In Your Opinion Is The Most Overrated ATG?

I dont think anyone would regard riddick bowe as an ATG but on size and h2h he apears undeservably high on heavyweight lists. I dont think bowe deserves to be rated no higher than buster douglas.

 

Nonsense.

 

^Most atgs from the early 80s to early/mid 90s. People who were kids back then grew up and idolize those fighters and thus they get overrated.
At the same time older fighters get underrated due to the people who saw them die.

 

explain? you rate bowe high?

 

I think a good technical boxer would've eventually picked Pryor apart if he stayed around.

Hagler did what he had to when he was active, but I think he's a little overrated H2H.

Hearns was defensively weak and physically on the frail side for supposedly being one of the best ever H2H at welterweight.

 

Pancho Villa. I've seen him in the top 50 on some lists, which seems ridiculous. A lot of the credit he gets, I feel, is because he died young and thus people think about what could have been, and he also gets credit for being a groundbreaker. But his best win came over an old Wilde, and other than that, he lost to all the great fighters he faced.

To a lesser extent, I think Sal Sanchez is a bit overrated for some of the same reasons, although he actually did beat a prime Gomez (while his other best wins came against guys long before or after their best).

 

we never got to see the full extent of what sanchez could do. if his career had continued he would have gone down as one of the goat featherweights easily, imo

 

Or he falls from grace similar to that of a Don Curry or Michael Nunn.

 

it's always a chance, but sal had the goods, physical, mental, and skillwise. i believe in him and his ridiculous jew fro.

 

I don't think Sal would've had a much longer reign. Considering bouts with both Arguello and Pedroza were widely considered at the time, I think there's a very high probability he loses at least one of those. Who knows where his career would've gone from there? We'll never know the nature of the loss were it to come about, nor will we know what kind of affects they had on him. Keep in mind, most of the other young sensations all seemed to be the part mentally as well. I think a large part of the problem was that they simply peaked too young and couldn't hold onto it for the long haul, given the wear and tear/experience they'd already built up. Sal strikes me as a perfect candidate to continue this kind of legacy, given the types of fights he was in, what was on the horizon, and how polished he had already become as a fighter.

 

A post prison Tyson tends to be VERY overrated. Some people talk of even a 2002 version as an awesome fighter,who could beat anyone put in front of him.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

That is a myth IMO

 

Arguello - poor defence, slow getting off, slow, can't deal with lateral movement, limited skillset. Basically just a very, very hard, accurate puncher with good stamina. People picking him over Mayweather makes me scratch my head

Lewis - not as skilled as some make him out to be, vulnerable to people getting inside and his record is massively massively over-rated

 

Would any of your opinions about Jones be different if he retired after beating Ruiz?