Who In Your Opinion Is The Most Overrated ATG?

I did a rough draft a while back and i actually had him higher but, I realized there are a few more that i should have put above him so im just guessing 30. Put it this way I have him around very good company with the Arguellos,Kid Gavilans

 

Artur was the king.

 

Are you guys related?

 

Well that's unjustafiable INO. Fighters have looked as good as Lopez but against quality opposition, and as much as you protest Alvarez does not register as a high end win.

Lovely to look at was Lopez, but there's little real quality in that dominance. Not enough to justify a top 50 ranking, let alonetop 30.

 

As far as quality opposition you have a point, or else i would have him in my top 10 to 15:yep I just see him as technichally so much better than even some of the greats, and its hard for me to put him any lower than the early 30s.

 

He was protected like he was Fort Knox. His best wins in at 140 are. In order of date.
1. Roger Mayweather who he allready beat.
2. Meldrick Taylor. Rather or not you agree with Richard Steele's decision. He needed it for the win.
3. John Duplessis nice record 36-1 but who did he fight before or since.
4. Lonnie Smith a former light weight champion who lost in his first defense, and that was 5 years before.
5. Angel Hernandez. Undefeted and untested.
6. Frankie Mitchell. He had fought for a fetherweight championship and lost 2 years before.
7. Hector Camacho. Had seen better days. He was no longer the fast and flashy boxer he wa in his younger days.
8. Greg Haugen. A solid boxer but by no means great. He was also past his best.
9. Frankie Randall. The first guy to "officialy" beat him. A gift decision if I ever saw one. Thanks for playing Julio Cesar. Tell him what he gets for quiting. You get a brand new world championship.:happy:happy:happy:happy
10. Tony Lopez. Quilty light weight but not a p4per.
11. Giovanni Parisi. Quility light welterweight but not a p4per.
12. David Kamau. A good boxer but not world championship level.
Don't get me started on his bum of the month club that makes up the rest of his wins at 140.

 

Actually i dont think thats a bad list at all. Alot better than many other fighters with a number of title defenses.
Check this out you are an obvious Chavez hater and im sure i could easily pick apart most Champs title defenses.
Who do you think was the greatest JW ?

 

You forgot Sammy Fuentes(good fighter) Terrance Ali(top contender good fighter) and Undefeated Andy Holligan. Marty Jakubowski 37-0,Cortes 44-0, and when Chavez was past it former 2x Champ Gamache, and 2 time Champ and pretty good fighter Miguel A Gonzalez the fight was a draw but i thought Chavez won it.

See even when you try and talk **** you leave out quite a few fighters just to make your argument look good, if anything you reminded how solid his claim is as the greatest JW ever.

 

Kostya Tszyu in my opinion has the best over all resume at 140.
I think there quit a few guys who would beat him head to head though but they did not stay at 140 long enough to build a resume there.

 

Well if you want to compare their resumes at 140 its close but Chavez still gets the nods and in a HTH matchup I would definitley pick a 91 Chavez over a 01 Tszyu.
Tszyus biggest win was over Judah, who in my opinion was not as good as Taylor
Tszyu also had trouble at times with an Old Mayweather and failed to knock him out someone that Chavez knocked out twice when Mayweather was in his prime. Tszyu was also stopped in his prime by Vince Phillips, Chavez was never stopped in his prime, hell he never even loss! He also won the title in his first reign against a better fighter when he stopped Mayweather, not a awkward glorified journeyman like Jake Rodriguez. KT also faced alot of fighters who were way past it Grove,May,Chavez,Leija,Gonzalez and blown up lightweight Ruelas who still managed to hurt Tszyu. He had good wins over a faded Sharmba Mitchell and a talented but glass jawed Hurtado, Judah glass jaw

Tszyu 4 defenses first reign, 12 second, 18-2-1nc-15 kos at JW
Chavez13 defenses 1st reign, 4 second, 34-2-2-28 kos at JW

Resume close but edge to Chavez, Better fighter clearly Chavez!!!!!!

 

That's actually a very, very impressive list.

 

Is it hell.It's decent at best.Chavez best fighters fought were mostly all at lower weights.

 

:good I agree he tried to put Chavez list down,but it ended up looking good. Chavez list of Victims were better than Tszyu's,and Chavez never lost in his prime much less get kod like Tszyu did.

 

He outboxed Dwight Muhammed Qawi,who destroyed Saad,who whipped Conteh.I know I'm guilty of fighter A beating fighter B,etc...but beating Qawi was impressive.And he also convincingly beat Eddie Mustafa Muhammed.

 

So was Chavez.