Who is a bigger star, Anthony Joshua or Canelo? Poll

You're letting the fan side get to you. Please let me know when a UK PPV generates more money than what Canelo has done.

OK, 1.7 Mil PPV X $24: $40,800,000
Canelo/Chavez 1 Mil PPV (not official, could go higher) X $74.99: $75,000,000
And that's only for PPV, no please tell me who generated more money?

Country size doesn't matter, Pacquiao and China taught us a lesson.

 

Where does it say you have to learn English to be a cashcow, I guess they forgot to tell Chavez Sr, Trinidad and many other fighters.

 

Canelo brings in more PPV revenue.

Canelo doesn't need the UK market to grow. AJ needs US market for growth.

Sorry Brits, as with most things, especially sports and entertainment, here in the US we do it BIGGER AND BETTER.

Stick to soccer I guess.

 

What's more important is a good manager/company, Canelo doesn't speak English but GBP has done an excellent job. GGG is trying to speak English but he doesn't generate as much as Canelo.

 

You know "Soccer" has more viewers than any American sport don't you? It also has the highest paid athletes in the world as well. It seems the world is doing fine without America in some sports. Froch and Groves sold well without any American buys. Wlad and Joshua sold more PPV's than Canelo as well. If Americans want to pay $80 to watch Canelo use Jr as a punch-bag be my guest.

 

What would you rather have?
1.7 Mil PPV at $24 or 1 Mil PPV at $75
What matters is the total revenue generated.

 

I'd rather have good fights personally. FMJ set the bar with those ridiculous prices and Americans seem happy to pay it.

Q - Do you think you got your money's worth with Canelo vs Jr?

I know every boxing fan in the UK would gladly part with their hard earned money again for a rematch between Wlad and Joshua, I don't think a rematch between Canelo & Jr will sell so well next time.

1.2 million ppv buys in the UK for Groves vs Froch, not bad for an island of 60 million people. Canelo has Americas(600 million)market and can only just match those numbers.

 

Q - Do you think you got your money's worth with Canelo vs Jr? As the saying goes, you don't know what's going to happen in a fight. At least one fighter was willing to give a show, unlike the MP/FMW fiasco.

I know every boxing fan in the UK would gladly part with their hard earned money again for a rematch between Wlad and Joshua, I don't think a rematch between Canelo & Jr will sell so well next time.
Good for them, unfortunately that's not related to this thread.

1.2 million ppv buys in the UK for Groves vs Froch, not bad for an island of 60 million people. Canelo has Americas(600 million)market and can only just match those numbers.
You're just trying to make this into a UK vs Americas thread. What difference does it make how many people live in a continent/country, what's important is hard cold cash.

 

I never made this into an Americas vs UK thread. The poster who said America does it bigger and better did that. I was pointing out boxers don't need America to succeed. Its an extra market to crack sure, a very lucrative one with $80 ppv numbers for bad fights. Why not break America, Any businessman would.

As for your cold hard cash comment. Its people like you why fights like FMJ and Pacman never happened till both was at the end of their careers. A fanbase happy to pay for mediocre will not be given fine cuisine because they are never full of the starters which you was happy to pay for the last decade.
A final note about your cold hard cash comment being meaningless is that both Ronaldo and Messi are far and away the most recognisable sportsmen on the planet bar none. Now, people in China have started paying 600k a week to sub-par players who are not as good as either of them. Are those players a bigger draw because they earn more, no, they don't.

 

Thanks for clearing the Americas vs UK point.

I know where you're coming from, I get it but we live in an age that most fighters want to make Mayweather money without taking risks or fighting the best. By the way, I didn't pay a dime for the Canelo/Chavez Jr fight. You might not like it, but it is what it is. I'm a bit more cynical and believe that all fighters are there to make money, don't believe that for glory, honor and titles crap. Have you ever laced them up, it's no fun when you're getting punched in the face.

 

I think boxers should be paid more money than footballers with the risks involved. I don't have a problem with fighters earning their moneys worth after they have earned that privilege. Like if Canelo beat FMJ than paying $80 for his fights sounds more reasonable. Dragging guys up from 140lbs to his weight division and looking good against them for $80 per fight seems like a complete rip-off to me and is only damaging the sport with these crap match-ups.

Like, has Canelo unified his division to charge these silly prices? I don't think he's done anything to justify the prices and his skill-set sure as hell dosen't warrant it. He's a name because Golden Boy wants him to be a name, they have managed his career thus far to minimise risk and collect the ppv numbers because of who he is.

 

You're saying that GBP has made him a name, how can you say that. It's like saying GBP could take a nobody and turn him to a cashcow, forget everything else. What risks are you referring, which risks hasn't he taken.
People like you give boxing/boxers a bad name, now please tell me which fighter has Canelo ducked or not taken a risk. Please don't say GGG, what happened in the past doesn't hold water since the fight is signed and scheduled.

 

You're starting to sound biased and a Canelo hater, you should be happy the fight is done and scheduled.