Who is at fault for Fury AJ not getting made [POLL]

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by miniq, Oct 1, 2022.


Who is at fault?

  1. Fury

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  2. Hearn

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  1. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Negotiate, make the fight and sign the contracts then tell the public the time, date and venue of the fight.

    I frankly do not want to hear or see the tit for tat, blaming each other childlike playground negotiations.
     
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  2. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    He's as dodgy as a nine bob note.
     
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  3. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You say I am not following the time line and spreading false information yet you yourself agreed with PW and posted on here that I was making it up,then when I posted the link you changed your whole narrative as you always do and everybody knows and sees this. Try reading the full article and not just the part that suits your agenda.There is clearly a dark obsession going on in your mind with all matters Fury and it is definitely not healthy for you .
     
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  4. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Once again another change of narrative, now your saying this part was all agreed 2 weeks ago despite posting numerous times that Joshua and Hearn have only had the contract for a number of days.
     
  5. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Post the full quote then ! Are you delusional or just unable to read an article and still insisting I made it up,is it really that hard for you to man up and admit that you got it wrong when the info I quoted is written at the end of the article for everybody to see ?
    Underneath that remark you posted is the rest of it which you deliberately missed off which clearly says.

    “We want that reversed in the rematch,rightfully so because your champion here,you want the bigger split,which I think is fair .

    So Joshua and Hearn at that point had not agreed to everything as they had said as they wanted the split for the rematch changing from 50/50 to 60/40 in there favour should Joshua win the first fight !
     
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  6. Sallywynder

    Sallywynder Member banned Full Member

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    Absolute bull**** poll. Why is there no AJ option?

    There should be, as many think he has dogged it for many years... IMO he hasnt really wanted to fight Fury in the past., and right or wrong, it is popular opinion and should have an option to say it!
     
  7. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I actually think Fury and his promoters are to blame. I doubt AJ or Hearn would duck Fury at this point for any reason. Hearn knows AJ is on his way out and has nothing to lose after losing three times in his last five fights. Why should Hearn or AJ refuse to fight Fury? It's a fight AJ doesn't even deserve to be fair. And he'd still get a title shot after losing two title fights clearly and getting knocked out by some fat guy before that. I just don't see a reason why Hearn or AJ wouldn't accept and take the fight at this point. I'm not a huge AJ fan and i don't like Hearn because he's a hypocrite but i can't see any obvious reason why Hearn/AJ wouldn't accept any solid offer from the other side. AJ probably retires if he loses to Fury. It's the last big payday and Eddie knows he has to sell AJ out because the end is near and AJ vs. Fury is probably the biggest all British HW fight since the 80s/90s with Bruno, Lennox and Bugner.
     
  8. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MickC the Sun are recycling a quote from a September 7th interview on IFL TV. It's an easy mistake to make because the Sun are a bit ****, and are republishing the quotes under a new date of September 27th. Which is misleading.

    In fact the Sun already used those IFL quotes in an article on September 10th.

    https://www-thesun-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19767617/anthony-joshua-brutal-usyk-swimming-training/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_ct=1664679392053&amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16646791875957&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19767617/anthony-joshua-brutal-usyk-swimming-training/
     
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  9. drenlou

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    The big goof never wanted the fight, he used AJ'S name for publicity. Its Fatboys fault all the way.
     
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Do you really that stupid ??? How many times plenty of people on here already need to tell you, that THIS IS AN OLD QUOTE FROM HEARN, when FURY FIRST USE HIS INSTAGRAM TO CHALLENGE AJ.

    I f***** give you the whole interview from AJ management agency, when they clearly state that team Fury was clear, that if they don't accept the initial offer with 60-40, 50-50 rematch, December 3rd, venue and so on, the offer, there is no negotiation.
    It was TAKE IT OR LEAVE !!!

    AJ accepted the offer, and THE SPLIT ON REMATCH WAS NEVER A PROBLEM FOR MAKING THE FIGHT.

    How stupid a person can be, to be exposed like ****, like you have been ??? This is Fury fans, twisting the facts, lying and can't even use their head to think for a second.

    And yeah you are exposed fraud, cause you claimed that this is the latest news, this is an old Quote from almost a month old, when there was no agreement for the fight.

    Read your own post kid:
    Yeah you are pathetic for losing my and everyone time, and trying to lie to everyone on here, where this is pure nonsenses.

    The only problem currently(unless something else get up) is the commercial deal, and that team AJ want to be co-promoters. Simple as that.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He is a blinded Fury fangirl and can't take that he is plain and simple stupid, on top of that he is using Sun, who is the s***** source for anything, and they are 99,99% of the time wrong, for every single sport they cover.

    I explain him like 20 times that this was old quote, on top of that i give him AJ management agency 258 MGT, that stated in that interview, that the offer was TAKE it or LEAVE it. And if AJ didn't agree to anything, there wasn't going to be a contract send.

    And the not so smart kid, instead of apologies to try to mislead people keep repeating b.c. This sums pretty much 99,99% of the Fury's and Wilder's fanboys on this site, and why i have most of them on the ignore.

    One more reply with another - IQ from him, and he will end up in there as well.
     
  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As for anyone still wondering. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that it's Fury.
    If you are so in a hurry, you put a deadline in the contract, or that deadline should come from your promotional team, not on Insta/Twitter video from a fat gypsy fart. If you want to put a deadline on something, you do it the right way, and from the beginning.

    It's clear as day Fury and Warren are all about the clout. And that backfired, and now they are trying to safe faces.

    The newest agenda from them is involving Joyce.

    Here is the fun part, Joyce is now calling AJ for December 17th and saying Hearn to call his "best bud" Warren to make the fight.
    He said he would have called Fury, but December 3rd is too tight for him. This is from him on Twitter.

    But here is the fun part, it's not said that Fury have to fight on December 3rd. He have the December 17th date. You are in one promotional team. If Hearn is so hard to make a deal, just struck a deal inside and made the fight with Fury, that is easy fight to make, no ???

    And how i know that Warren make Joyce to do this ? Easy. Like few days ago after the win. Joyce himself challenge Fury and said that he will be ready for December 3rd.
    But now they are making compliments with Fury, one to another, trying to look good, cause they are from one promotional company.

    AJ is coming from 2 back to back loses, he ain't Champ anymore. If someone has to fight the best possible opponents, it's the Champion.

    So prove us all wrong that AJ is backing out of the fight, and fight Joyce on December 17th. No reason not to pull to the date on December 17th.

    The good thing is all the fans on twiter see through this.

    This was so obvious, and once again expose what a s***** Warren and Fury and that they are all for the cloud.

    Same with Fury father opponent list of Ruiz, Zhang, Hrgovic and Ortiz(wasn't he like 50 years old like 4 years ago, based on Fury comments) ???
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    Probably both if were honest.

    But you could also blame Wilder for forcing that pointless 3rd fight. It was signed and agreed before but now both their promoters are probably less confident of their fighters chances. Hearn because Joshua has lost back to back and looked mentally broken by the 2nd Usyk loss and Fury has clearly gone even further off the rails in recent months and may not be in the best mental state to take on an opponent like Joshua.

    So both promoters are probably trying to fight for every advantage fearing their fighter needs it and so we have a stalemate in negotiations where before every single detail wasn't fought for because they had more belief in their fighters chances.
     
  14. Gomo

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    Fury didn't really want the fight.

    It's really simple if you really want the fight you be patient and do everything possible to make it happen. Its OK saying oh he's had 2 weeks. Come on now fury ain't that stupid he knows a fight of this magnitude doesn't get made in 2 weeks and as much as he wants to call AJ a bum he knows how big he still is commercially and all that goes with that.

    The guy was too quick to say OK deadline no fight goodbye I don't care. And he genuinely doesn't care. Well if he wanted the fight he would have been trying much harder not talking guff constantly in the media to jeopardise the fight and been gutted it didn't happen.

    We saw it when he pulled out of the first fight when wilder was the excuse. As if he wouldn't have known he had to fight wilder again and when the arbitration was announced he didn't show any signs of being gutted in fact quite the opposite just like this one it was OK I don't care, sorry, relief.

    Fury is a brilliant fighter and he seems a really nice down to earth bloke. But he's also a liar, a skittish personality, not reliable or sincere with his words. I dont trust anything that comes out if his mouth. Starting to dislike the guy.

    As much as joshua seems to lack heart in the ring I diont believe for one second he would duck fury, he's fought everyone win or lose.
     
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  15. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Fury is scared to death of Joyce . He sat ring side and watch the terminator absolutely batter his mate. He doesn't want that's fight He wants the usyk route as its safer for him. He might lose that one but getting splattered by AJ or Joyce will be too much for his ego to take.
     
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