Who is better? Pacquiao or Calzaghe

Who has Joe really beaten. Pac has been far more impressive against lesser opponents, I mean Pac would demolish the Bika's of the world at 122-130. guys like Kessler although a good win was something like 8-4 UD to joe, Well Pac UD ATG MAB 11-0(without the bogus KD) + TKO. Tell me which is more impressive. When calzaghe starts dominating ATG fighters as Pac has, then we can compare.

 

Oh please, without Joe's speed his slaps wouldnt be half as effective.

 

pac is very vulnerable to certain styles, while calzaghe so far has been able to adapt to different ones.

 

pac have established his career beating elite opponents in barrera, morales and marquez. joe has two good names in kessler and lacy. i say pac because he did beat elite level of opponents with different styles. calzgahe is not far off.

 

Pac has faced the best boxers of his time. Cant say the same for Joe. We also cant say hes faced a demon like Pac, I mean how would he fight someone as physically gifted as Roy jones for example in his own weight class. Someone as explosive with as good speed, I know Roy is alot different from Pac but Joe really hasnt faced any A+ elite level boxers or phenom athletes. Thus we cannot say he can adapt to any style.

Kessler was a solid textbook fighter comparable to that of Soto and Lacy was a crude brawler comparable to that of Barios. We dont rate Guzman so highly so why do we Joe? Yes Kessler was no.2 in the division but thats because his division is weaker than that of 130. Think about it, how many p4p'er in 168? Take away the only p4p which is Calzaghe and Kessler is the no.1 fighter of the division. Take away the p4p fighters of 130 in MAB, Pac, JMM & guzman and Soto is also no.1 in the division. Its all relevance.

 

That's the problem with taking away this aspect of either fighter's game, their speed is essential to their success. Joe is still crafty on the inside though, a good boxer with a good jab, and an extremely tough, durable fighter who's relentlessness is as much a part of his game as his speed, though obviously his speed enhances all of this and allows it to be as effective as it is. Joe though, at least has the technical and intangible attributes aside from his speed. Pacquiao? Not as much in any of those areas.

 

How about his power, chin, stamina, aggresion, heart? Skill extrememly underrated too, he would boxed with MAB and got the better of him, nuff said. Calzaghe wouldnt looked nearly as technically good without his speed, without his speed his technical skills which are catered towards his speed is useless. All this scenario of if fighter didnt have this and that they would be crap, guess what, Ali without his speed would be crap too.

As it is, Pac has dominated and beat tough elite brawlers, boxer punches, slick masterboxers. Joe hasnt beaten any elite brawlers, hes beaten a good boxerpuncher and he hasn't beaten any masterboxers. i dont get where any of this more adaptable is coming from. Adaptability can only take you so far as to whom is across the other corner.

 

Calzaghe may be more skilled, but Pac's comp shits on Joe's.

 

neither one of them is better than the other. both of them are my fave fighters so i don't want to compare. pac's resume is better than joe and joe's skills are better than pac, but they are both GREAT CHAMPIONS.

 

I like both these fighters, but based upon hard facts and results, Pacquiao easily wins it for me. I don't know how Calzaghe would fair against several great fighters since his division lacks big names. Calzaghe's greatest test was against Mikkel Kessler which he won convincingly, and I give him all the credit for that win. But Kessler's record was similar to Calzaghe's record in that they were both undefeated, but trying to prove that their undefeated record would hold up against other great fighters. In the case of Calzaghe since he beat Kessler, Calzaghe's undefeated record is increasingly justified whereas Kessler's undefeated record is put in doubt. I do think that Kessler is a good boxer.

 

Oh please! Pac's head is constantly lateral while many here argue he lost to JMM Calzaghe is neither static in head movement nor has once been given a gift decision. P4P is about scaled comparisons, Pac simply doesn'y cut it @ a higher weight - you think he could take the bombs he did @ 168 or higher? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

I cannot believe this is even being entertained! :-(

 

of course pac.

 

Soto is a very good fighter, but you aren't going to find too many people that agree with this comparison. And even if you want to compare a crude brawler like Lacy to a crude brawler like Barrios and say 'we don't rate Guzman as highly'....

Well, winning 12-0 in the most dominant display in recent times is a little better than winning 8-4 due to a bad gameplan.

 

I think the question was which boxer is better in their respective divisions. Of course, Calzaghe being the much bigger fighter would likely win if they ever fought.

 

Please, Pacquiao's record Is built up on recycled Mexicans on losing streaks and when he fights Marquez, gets two gift decisions.