who is better pound for pound? TIM BRADLEY vs ARTHUR ABRAHAM

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So Abraham is better because he beat a washed up Taylor?
     
  2. wingchung

    wingchung Active Member Full Member

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    no doubt.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    To me Bradley has not done quite enough. Abraham held a belt at 160 for years and defended many times. Just knocked Jermain out of the tournament. Bradley may pan out to b e better in the long run cause he is still very young and his best fights are ahead of him. For now Abraham
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    why aren't you voting
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Because I'm sure who I believe is the better p4p fighter. They're pretty close IMO.
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I was explaining, not so washed up. Even a "washed up" Taylor is still miles above Holt, 140 campbell. Cant say much for peterson as he could be good or shite, he's just a prospect at the moment. Witter was a good win but IMO, witter is probably as washed up as taylor is now except he was never as good to begin with.

    Abrahm also has some other solid wins. 2 wins over Miranda isnt too bad either.

    It is pretty close thinking about it, never did say it was a landslide by Abraham. I think Bradley is probably gonna turned out to be the more accomplished fighter too.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    thats the idea. You'll vote when you make up your mind.

    I wanna make a p4p list based on a series of polls like this. Actually I've wanted to do it for a long time but the problem is that its too many polls and the landscape of the sport changes too quickly
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I really like both, but I think AA might get alittle underrated when it comes to his skills. He has been called crude at times, but he has always been very affective with that style and has worked great for him. I agree with what someone said earlier of Bradley being a fighter first that can also be a good technician when he wants too.

    So in terms of skills and versatility probably Bradley might get my vote, but Arthur has shown me he knows how to handle both boxers and punchers and he makes up for his crudeness with that very nice defense. Otherwise, he would be pretty easy to connect. Holt can be comparable to Miranda, but even a past his prime Taylor still gave Pavlik and Froch hell and gave AA fits before succumbing to them and is a much better win than both Campbell and Peterson combined. I'm a fan of both AA and TB, but for now I'll give the edge to Abraham. Doesn't mean I'm biased toward him, I just think he's had more meaningful victories even if it was against a past his prime Taylor who did win some rounds vs. AA. AA also ko'd a prime Miranda, Holt lasted the whole fight with Bradley. But I give cred to both for being the smaller men and having their hands raised in victory overcoming their bigger opponents.
     
  9. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Listen, I am sure everyone recognizes Tim's ability.

    But who has he beaten of note?
    Grazed past Junior Witter on home turf? Got a NC against an old, shopworn Campbell? Or a very nice win against a very unproven product in Peterson?

    Devon Alexander has a bigger case for a p4p entrant once he beats Juan Urango, than Tim does.

    Arthur has not only beaten, but dominated the likes of Taylor, Miranda, Gevor and Simon. Arthurs win over Taylor alone, stands out more than any win on Tims record, by far.
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Abraham didn't dominate Taylor and he didn't dominate Simon either. There's a difference between beating someone and dominating them.
     
  12. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was ahead by 3-4 rounds against Taylor and had won the last 5 rounds in their bout up until' the stoppage, I am a huge Taylor fan and the TS of Taylors express on here, but Arthur not only knocked him out, but outboxed him down the stretch, even outjabbed him.

    Simon was a tough customer, but Arthur had complete control of that fight, I suggest you go back and watch it again.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    How do you figure? The Witter that Bradley beat is better than Urango. Holt is better than Urango as well.
     
  14. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe so, but Devon also completely dominated and made Witter quit, Bradley only got a SD on home turf. Although I should give him props since Witter came off a brilliant win, going into the fight against Bradley, and had a slight inactivity period before fighting Devon.

    Urango shouldn't be underestimated, he's had a good run at LWW, two time champion only having lost at 140lbs to Hatton.
     
  15. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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