Who is better, Vitali or Wlad

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Vitali an ATG? :rofl:nut
     
  2. Mendoza

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    It's hard to say who has the better legacy.


    Vitali's legacy is different. He has the best ratio of rounds won to rounds lost in the history of gloved boxing...all weight classes. Far better than Ali, Louis, or Holmes.

    He was never floored by a punch.

    He has one of the highest KO % of all time among heavyweight champions.

    He came back 4 years off with no warm up fight, to take his belt back in his late 30's, then remained active and dangerous past his 40th birthday. Only Foreman did this, and he lost his first title shots.


    Wlad's legacy is being on top for a decade, and beating the better competition in general.

    However, when you factor in that Vitali had a much easier time with Sanders, Purrity, and Peter, and also include that his two losses were fights he was winning ( Vs top competition ) where he lost to an injury and cut, my take is Vitali is the better head to head fighter, and their legacies are equally good but different.

    It's a pity Haye and Valuev backed out of fights with Vitali, and he missed 4 years of his prime due to Politics and injury.

    It's a pity Lewis refused to offer the re-match he said he would.

    That's just how it went down.

    My vote if there was an option would be better head to head, and even on legacy.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury owns both of these clowns.
     
  4. Lady Girl

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    :deal
     
  5. Beatle

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    So let me repeat your words: you think fat, 38-year-old golfer Corrie Sanders and overhyped cab driver Sam Peter are better wins than Alexander Povetkin and David Haye.

    What are you going to do now that you've lost the little credibility you had?
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What makes you think Wlad could ever have beaten Vitali?
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's weaker because Wlad's fought an extra 20 plus fights.

    Vital hasn't just fought plodders.

    How is Vitali overrated H2H? He withdrew from the Byrd fight and then had shoulder surgery the following week, and he fought great against Lennox, and Lennox wouldn't give him a rematch. Yet Wlad got stopped by 3 non great fighters in his 20's and he struggled with the likes of Peter.

    If Vitali had've remained fit and active, his resume would easily be on a par with Wlad's.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He ducked all of the talented contenders?

    What are you talking about?
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can't see how it would be 50/50.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    An outstanding post.
     
  12. Mean2015

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    Definitely only H2H is Vitali better than Wlad

    Wlad legacy is much better and he hasn't even retired. Imagine if he defeats Fury and dominates a little longer before retiring. He would be even more special. Of course that's just a big IF
     
  13. Beatle

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    Make a list of the five best wins on Vitali's resume, and you'll understand what I'm talking about. Try not to laugh too hard while you're doing it, though: it is possible to die laughing.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    It's hard to say who has the better legacy.


    Vitali's legacy is different. He has the best ratio of rounds won to rounds lost in the history of gloved boxing...all weight classes. Far better than Ali, Louis, or Holmes.

    He was never floored by a punch.

    He has one of the highest KO % of all time among heavyweight champions.

    He came back 4 years off with no warm up fight, to take his belt back in his late 30's, then remained active and dangerous past his 40th birthday. Only Foreman did this, and he lost his first title shots.


    Wlad's legacy is being on top for a decade, and beating the better competition in general.

    However, when you factor in that Vitali had a much easier time with Sanders, Purrity, and Peter, and also include that his two losses were fights he was winning ( Vs top competition ) where he lost to an injury and cut, my take is Vitali is the better head to head fighter, and their legacies are equally good but different.

    It's a pity Haye and Valuev backed out of fights with Vitali, and he missed 4 years of his prime due to Politics and injury.

    It's a pity Lewis refused to offer the re-match he said he would.

    That's just how it went down.

    My vote if there was an option would be better head to head, and even on legacy.- Mendoza

    Thanks.
     
  15. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You don't do math very well, do you? 30% of anything is good chances, Tyson Fury's odds were (wrongly) much lower when he faced Wlad. And if you have the toeamaker and pedvetkin as better legacy wins than Sanders and Peter, your eyes are dysfunctional.