Who is better, Vitali or Wlad

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You can't work a forum you've been a member on for 3 years and you're questioning my intelligence ? :rofl:nut
     
  2. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Your (lack of) intelligence speaks for itself:hi:
     
  3. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    H2H: Wlad...

    Vitali's low guard and bad facial skin and bone structure against Wladimirs reach, jab and 2 hand gamebreakers...

    TKO.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not for me.

    Vitali would have intimidated him and he's a lot tougher.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sanders was at his peak against Vitali? Too bad you can't ban stupid here, there'd be only a couple guys left.
     
  6. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    And you wouldn't be one of the remaining guys, moron. Styles make fights, idiot. Sanders wasn't going to outbox or outmove Vitali, his only chance was soaking up Vitali's shots and counterpunching. In that respect, he was prime for Vitali, because the added bulk helped his durability and power. While it robbed him of stamina and athleticism, those were less important facets to being competitive with Vitali than power and durability. Against other fighters, I'm sure his change would have been to the detriment, but here, it was beneficial.

    Sorry, am I just plain talking above you? Are you one of the people that think Young George Foreman was unequivocally better in all ways than Old George?
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    It's hard to say who has the better legacy.


    Vitali's legacy is different. He has the best ratio of rounds won to rounds lost in the history of gloved boxing...all weight classes. Far better than Ali, Louis, or Holmes.

    He was never floored by a punch.

    He has one of the highest KO % of all time among heavyweight champions.

    He came back 4 years off with no warm up fight, to take his belt back in his late 30's, then remained active and dangerous past his 40th birthday. Only Foreman did this, and he lost his first title shots.


    Wlad's legacy is being on top for a decade, and beating the better competition in general.

    However, when you factor in that Vitali had a much easier time with Sanders, Purrity, and Peter, and also include that his two losses were fights he was winning ( Vs top competition ) where he lost to an injury and cut, my take is Vitali is the better head to head fighter, and their legacies are equally good but different.

    It's a pity Haye and Valuev backed out of fights with Vitali, and he missed 4 years of his prime due to Politics and injury.

    It's a pity Lewis refused to offer the re-match he said he would.

    That's just how it went down.

    My vote if there was an option would be better head to head, and even on legacy.


    Thanks. Actually, I didn't touch on defense. Vitali had the better head movement of the two and used his legs more often. A master of spacing defense and using his height, Vitali was.

    VK was better on the counter, in addition to going to the body when needed or using his uppercut.

    People seldom talk about defense.

    Nor do they talk about nerves or confidence. Vitali was the intimidator. Wlad, a bit nervous at times.

    Casual fans will gravitate toward Wlad superior firepower better hand speed, and cleaner form, but there's more to that in boxing.

    As a footnote on the way up Vitali was considered the better puncher by the trainer they shared and Universum. Shoulder and back injuries took away something from Vitali's power.
     
  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    ??? Vitali said the Lewis fight was the first time he was ever cut.

    So goes your theory...