Who is Britains greatest ever boxer of all time?

berg beat canzoneri in jan of 1930
kid chocolate in aug of 1930
billy pertrolle in oct of 1930
and kid chocolate again in 1932

 

Fitz is honestly amazing, cant say how highly i rate him

 

One extremely great win?lol:

 

Jimmy Wilde
131-3-2 (99), 13 no-decisions
It's hard for fans of any era to properly appreciate a man who fought several generations before their own but Wilde's greatness shouldn't be overlooked just because it occurred 100 years ago. A fighter's value is measured by how well he did against the best fighters of his era and how well he did in the States. In all these regards Wilde has few peers in British boxing - look at the record, three losses in 149 fights.
Wilde rarely scaled more than 100 pounds but ranks amongst the purest natural punchers ever with an astonishing 99 career knockouts. Ring magazine placed him third among history's greatest punchers, behind only Joe Louis and Sam Langford.
Wilde's No. 1 position is where he belongs. It is not even close.


Freddie Welsh
73-5-7 (32), 82 no-decisions
It's unfortunate than when Welsh is remembered it's as the man who lost his lightweight title to the great Benny Leonard in the States in 1917. True, there are worse ways to be remembered but Welsh was one helluva lightweight in his own right and his form against the top men of his era prove it. Welsh was not the puncher like Wilde - few were. Stylistically, he was a fleet-footed, quick-fisted wizard who relied on his jab the way Wilde relied on his right hand, a superb boxer in an age when the ranks were full of rough, hungry Americans with talent. Only the elegant but ruthless Leonard was able to master Freddie’s jab.
Welsh is among the best British fighters of all time, the second best.


Jim Driscoll
52-3-6 (35), 8 no-decisions
Like Welsh, Driscoll kept his opponents off-balance with superior footwork, speed, science and defence. He was a better puncher than Welsh and to be frank you could swap their rankings without too much argument. The primary difference is that Driscoll lost to Welsh by disqualification for reckless use of the head in Cardiff in 1910 and never won a world title - officially. Driscoll did everything but knock out world featherweight champion Abe Attell in their featherweight title fight in New York in 1909 and the no-decision rule thus saved Attell, who never gave Jim a rematch even though he "newspaper decision" went Driscoll's way.
Say no more for "Peerless" Jim.


Lennox Lewis
41-2 (32)
There are those who would put Lewis at the very top of this list but only as a result of his sheer visibility, the Holy Grail that is the world heavyweight title. ALL of the fighters above Lennox had more wins than Lewis even had fights and the breadth of one's work outweighs even the giant. That said, Lewis was an exceptional, mostly dominant champion whose greatest strengths were his mental strength, versatility and his ability to travel. When facing a big puncher, such as David Tua or Mike Tyson, he showed he could move and box superbly. When confronted by a mentally weaker man, say Andrew Golota or Michael Grant, he was destructive.
There is no shame in coming in fourth.


Bob Fitzsimmons
40-11 (32) 11 no-decisions, 1 no-contest
Fitzsimmons' fought entirely in Australia and the States. Nevertheless, "Ruby Robert" was born in Cornwall and that must qualify him as British as much as the Canadian-served Lewis. His position as boxing's first three-weight world champion was sealed in 1903 when he won the light-heavyweight crown from George Gardner, aged 40. Fitzsimmons even stopped Gardner and had won the heavyweight title from Jim Corbett in 1897 with a more legendary knockout. His wins over Corbett and Jack Dempsey (“The Nonpareil&#8221, the latter for the middleweight crown, were huge.


Ted "Kid" Lewis
173-30-14 (71), 65 no-decisions
Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali are forever linked; that's how it is with Lewis and New Yorker Jack Britton, who fought one another no less than 20 times between 1915 and 1921 – 19 in America. They passed the welterweight title back and forth like the Olympic flame but Britton wasn't the only great fighter with whom Lewis tangled. He fought all the best fighters in or around his weight, including Benny Leonard (Lewis won the "newspaper decision"), Mike Gibbons, the world class middleweight whose younger brother took a peak Jack Dempsey the full 15 rounds (and bankrupt an entire town), top light-heavies like Georges Carpentier and “Slapsie” Maxie Rosenbloom. Even heavyweights, such as South Africa's Alec Storbeck, whom Lewis stopped in a round, were fair game for the man for all-time domestic rankings.


Ken Buchanan 61-8 (27)
Like Freddie Welsh before him, Buchanan had the great misfortune of competing in the same era as a physical phenomenon. Welsh lost his world lightweight title to Benny Leonard; Buchanan, to Roberto Duran, who stopped Buchanan under dubious circumstances in their title match in New York in 1972 and never gave Buchanan a deserved rematch.
Buchanan was a fabulous boxer-puncher who would have enjoyed a long reign but for Duran. As it was, Ken beat a fine fighter in Ismael Laguna for the title (in the kind of heat that ruined the likes of Barry McGuigan and Colin Jones) and defended against Ruben Navarro (in the same venue where Johnny Owen passed away) and then Laguna again before running into Duran. He also beat the great Carlos Ortiz (albeit in the Ortiz' final fight) and future world champion Jim Watt.
He moved brilliantly, jabbed brilliantly, travelled brilliantly.


Randy Turpin
66-8-1 (45)
Turpin is best remembered for his shocking win over middleweight champion Sugar Ray Robinson in London in 1951 and it is true that a good deal of it was owed to Robinson's philandering in the days leading up to what he thought would be an easy defence. There was no such alibi for the rematch 64 days later in New York. Turpin, with his awkward strength and heavy jab, troubled Robinson the way Ken Norton troubled Muhammad Ali. A badly cut Robinson had to dig deep to regain the title on a controversial 10-round stoppage.
Simply speaking, Turpin defeated and then troubled the greatest fighter who ever lived.


Naseem Hamed
36-1 (31)
Many fans scoff at Hamed now, so one-sided and humbling was his points loss to Marco Antonio Barrera in Las Vegas in 2001. It broke him as a fighter but it doesn't erase what he amassed before that night; namely whipping good solid fighters in Tom Johnson, Manuel Medina, Wayne McCullough, Kevin Kelley, Wilfredo Vazquez and Paul Ingle. Hamed's charisma, outrageous personality and unorthodox style made him a target of the purists but he made up for it with astonishing athleticism and punching power.
Only one man was able to silence him.


Owen Moran
67-16-5 (33), 19 no-decisions
Moran never officially won a world title but it is hard to think of another man who came so close so many times in the early 1900s. Moran, a Brummie based mostly in the States and nicknamed “The Fearless, twice fought Jim Driscoll, once to a draw and another to a no-decision. He also took on Battling Nelson, the great Abe Attell (five times), Ad Wolgast, Packey McFarland, Charley White (“Life is the best left-hooker you ever saw&#8221, George Dixon... Moran had a hard time winning against the very top men and that's reflected in his position. Nobody had an easy time of it against him, though. Moran was as relentless and punishing as any fighter you can name before or after him - one of his biggest fans remains Iron Mike Tyson.

 

Won't argue with that. Its either Wilde or Ted Kid Lewis imo!

 

Bennie, nice cut and paste

 

**** :good

 

Read my mind I think we've all seen that.

 

Im tempted to say Berg you know even though his prime wasnt long and he wasnt a particularily prostigious world title holder. Three hall of famers in one year was incredible, I think if he'd kept that form up we wouldnt even be debating it now.

 

the thing i like about berg , ted and lennox lewis is that they went to the states and won big fights away from home i would include fitz in that if i knew where his home was

 

He would of smashed Scott Harrison though :thumbsup

 

:deal

 

Prince Naseem Hamed.

Too much power
Too fast
Too unorthodox
Too much charisma
Too talented
for any other Brit.

 

:goodthis looks like a good pick to me,except benny lynch is missing.
as much as i love randy turpin,he doesn't belong with the latter 3