who is currently better? Mosley or Dawson

Adamek isn't a puncher? Epifanio Mendoza isn't a puncher? Give me a break.

 

What about his first fight against Tarver?

Compared to Hopkins, who completely dominated a younger Tarver when he was over 40, Dawson looked unimpressive enough to merit a rematch.

For a guy who is touted as the #2 PFP tallent under Mayweather, shouldn't he have been able to dominate Tarver more throughly than Hopkins?

Dawson is great at what he does which is box and counterpunch, but he does not have any idea how to fight going foward, and Hopkins does, which is why Hopkins versatility made the fight look easy against Tarver.

Fortunately for Dawson, there is no one in or near his division that has the skills or tallent to out counterpunch him, so he is it very little risk of losing.

But his questionable performance against old man pressure fightin Johnson still has to put questions in people's heads, in whether or not he has the power and smarts to hold off some of the younger pressure fighters like Tavoris Cloud.

Now, honestly I have no doubt that Dawson would be able to beat Cloud, but like I said, for a guy that's respected as much as he is, I would have expected a more dominating performance against Tarver.

 

Lately, Adamek has started putting people down right, left and centre, but at 175, when he fought Dawson, no, he wasn't a puncher. He wasn't looking for that one punch as he is doing now. Yeah, he had some good power, but he wasn't a puncher.

 

It was a flash KD. Dawson wasnt hurt.

Sounds like just outright ill-informed hatred to me.

Any version of Adamek is a much bigger puncher then Bute.

 

Who other than Hopkins ever looks good against Taver? With that said Dawson did thoroughly dominate Tarver in the first fight IMO

 

Dawson just got better and didnt gas. He moved a bit more, but he was also exchanging with Johnson more then a few times.

Honestly it was a Dawson we havent seen before, a Dawson with more athleticism then he let on earlier, I think it was more of DAwson getting better from experience then fighting the wrong fight.

 

Mendoza is just a little better than a journeyman. It doesn't matter if he is a puncher or not, he's nowhere near Dawson's league.

And, no, I wouldn't say that Adamek approached the fight with Dawson as someone like Abraham, Froch, etc. would have. He was too scared he's gas if he went all out looking for the stoppage anyway, he was so drained. He had to be measured and sensible.

I am being as honest here. Call me misinformed or plain wrong, if you want, but I am being honest.

 

Dawson beat Tarver pretty throughly the first time, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Tarver won a couple of rounds that Dawson seemed to take off, but anytime Dawson stepped up the pace Tarver had nothing for him. It's funny that you try to denegrade Dawson because he didn't beat Tarver as bad as an old Hopkins(even though they both dominated him) then you turn around and say you doubt Dawson could beat Cloud even thought Cloud beat old ass Woods nowhere near as convincingly as Tarver did. Cloud would get his ass kicked by Dawson.

 

Well, isn't it a bit contradictory that people say things like this, but yet turn around and say Dawson would wipe the floor with Hopkins.

Hopkins is duckin etc, when it's clear that an over 40 year old Hopkins can put on better performances than an athletically prime Chad Dawson.

 

Your original quote was that he hasn't faced a puncher, even a mediocre puncher. You're just wrong. Own up to it. If you said he hasn't faced an elite pure puncher, that would have been true. But that's not what you said, and it's not as if there are ANY elite pure punchers Dawson could have faced. He's faced the biggest punchers in his weight class, other than Cloud (who is far from being elite himself).

 

You said Dawson hadn't even face an unskilled puncher.

 

Exactly, Dawson beat an old man. That's expected.

But a game of "you punch, I punch" is both hardly impressive and hardly dominating, especially since the majority of both guys punches landed on eachother's gloves.

I mean, this was so easy to see that even my girl who don't even like boxing was dissin their performance.

 

Did you actually watch this weekend's fight? Hopkins looked like complete ****. He looked like sort of **** against Ornelas, and he looked like complete **** against Jones.

 

A guy like Mendoza is so unskilled that he could not take out many a very good china-chinned fighter. So it doesn't really matter if he is a puncher or not, even assuming he had one-punch KO power.

 

But this contradicts what you said earlier. Why don't you just admit that you were wrong?