Who is everybody's top 10 heavies resume wise?

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  1. avo

    avo I Got Milk Baby!!! Full Member

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    Based soley on resume not H2H etc....
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Based on resume, achievements, dominance and longevity with a bonus for the men who cleaned out and defined their division (8 out of those 10) and a smaller bonus for the guys who weren´t the clear number one or missed out their most important opponents.


    1 Joe Louis
    1 Muhammad Ali
    3 Jack Johnson
    4 Rocky Marciano
    4 Larry Holmes
    4 Lennox Lewis
    7 Mike Tyson
    8 James J. Jeffries
    8 Evander Holyfield
    10 Joe Frazier
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1 Muhammad Ali
    2 Joe Louis
    3 Rocky Marciano
    4 Joe Frazier
    5 George Foreman


    I'll be back later with the next 5.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    Resume also takes into account H2H because you're comparing the H2H ability of the contenders. Unless you just want to look at Ring Rankings, which also are somewhat subjective
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Resume solely.

    there are 2 ways to look at resume: era specific or cross era. but taking a mix of the two and saying only the top guys superced regular resume checks I'd say

    tried listing some but this is harder than it looks. most people have their criteria stuck and it's hard removing that criteria. i'll get back to this thread.
     
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  7. avo

    avo I Got Milk Baby!!! Full Member

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    yeah but for me Frazier was better than Foreman resume wise even though Foreman destroyed Frazier twice.
     
  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can´t compare resume´s cross-era. Because you can´t compare the fighters prperly, just their rankings, which is, like PP already wrote, subjective. Rank a fighter in his era and compare it to how other fighters ranked in their is the way to go I think.
     
  9. Armstrong!

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    I don't understand your list. Could you explain it to me? Why do you have three #4's, two #8's, and two #1's?
     
  10. avo

    avo I Got Milk Baby!!! Full Member

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    I think he is putting them level with each other.
     
  11. bodhi

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    Yes, has to do with the way I compiled it. Had 4 criterias, each worth 5 points max. Every fighter got a certain amount of points. Two criterias are worth more than the other two, those were multiplied by 2 or 3. Additionaly, fighters got a bonus of 10 points (if they defined their era and beat all relevant challengers) or 5 points (if they were either THE man for a short time, a weaker champ or didn´t fight all relevant challengers). Then all those numbers got summed up, they guys with the most points are top. Louis and Ali had the same amount of points, as did the others which ended up at the same position.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    Louis
    Ali
    Johnson
    Lewis
    Holmes
    Holyfield
    W Klitschko
    Charles
    Marciano
    Liston
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

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    Charles?????

    1. Louis
    2. Ali

    3. Marciano
    4. Holmes
    5. Foreman

    6. Frazier
    7. Holyfield
    8. Tyson

    9. Lewis
    10. Johnson

    11. Liston
    12. Dempsey
    13. Jeffries

    14. Wlad
    15. Schmeling

    16. Patterson
    17. Charles
    18. Walcott

    19. Wills
    20. Bowe

    21. Vitali
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    Charles has an awesome resume which is the sole criteria on this thread.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    What I mean is that beating someone like ali or louis means more than beating someone like briggs even if they shared the same ranking at the time.