who is greater, Bernard Hopkins or Joe Calzaghe?

Hopkins pretty easily

 

Passing belts among what is shaping up to be a class of superior fighters. Slappy Joe didn't even have the balls to fight Clinton Woods let alone a killer like Ottke.

 

I DON'T hate him.Sugar Ray Leonard and Vinnie Pazienza are examples of fighters that I hate.I'm just dissappointed in myself because I was a fan of his and had to see right through his bull****,and obviously,there's a lot of bull**** in him.

 

Hopkins easy.

 

id say hopkins

 

lol@this thread

 

love all the hopkins bullsuckers.

"hopkins easy" - not one of you can enter into a logical discussion about this because you get owned. best for you guys to keep it simple with your brainwashed ignorance. you are a disgrace.

hopkins entire career is smoke and mirrors.

 

No offense man, but the more you say it the more it sounds like you are trying to convince even yourself.

 

hopkins because of his resume

 

Why?

Because his best wins are over smaller men?

Because the general standard of his middleweight reign competition was not great?


BOTH of those idiotic criticisms were also made of the man in your avatar!!!!! And they were idiotic when applied to Hagler, and they are equally idiotic when applied to Hopkins, as these are two of the top five fighters ever in one of the traditionally strongest weight classes.

 

Pretty much equals i think.

 

To answer the question, Calzaghe is better in terms of resume and p4p skills. But Hopkins will be remembered more kindly. Which I won't really understand, but there's a good deal of boxing fans who will always pick the black American over the white Euro. That's life.

 

i'm not defending hagler, i accept those criticisms of him - his victory over duran means very little in my eyes. maybe the hearns victory means more because he went on to win middleweight, super middleweight and light heavyweight titles after hagler.

the point about hopkins is that he lost 4 times when he fought the best fighters who were of equal natural weight to him.

if calzaghe had lost to taylor twice he would be considered a laughing stock and be beaten repeatedly round the head with it.

a past it calzaghe beat hopkins on foreign soil with a corrupt ref.

people want to ignore these facts yet want to go overboard in praise for hopkins when he beats much lighter men like wright, pavlik, de la hoya, trinidad. none of those fighters were fighting at their peak weight when fighting hopkins and none of them went on to achieve **** all in those weights after they fought hopkins.

his entire career is smoke and mirrors swallowed by a gullable american public who got brainwashed by hbo and ring magazine.