Who is greater Joe Joyce or Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, May 14, 2025 at 5:44 PM.


Who ranks higher

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  1. Joyce

    8 vote(s)
    17.0%

  2. Wilder

    39 vote(s)
    83.0%
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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think it looks bad for Joyce having wins over 2 current top 5 HWs especially when not having 20 fights compared to a long running HW champion
     
    bailey, May 15, 2025 at 12:28 PM
    bailey, May 15, 2025 at 12:28 PM
    #16
  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Neither could have done what Wilder did prior to Fury 2 (42-0-1, 10 consecutive defences).
     
    Redbeard7, May 15, 2025 at 12:51 PM
    Redbeard7, May 15, 2025 at 12:51 PM
    #17
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Big Joe easy

    He not only has wins over the current #2 and #3 HWs in the world he stopped them both

    And he's beat 3 world champions in 20 fights, 1 was shot to bits

    The Dosser has only beaten 2 in 48 fights, 1 was shot to bits

    World champions Dosser has fought

    Never beate one who was above C level

    Belly x 3 - lost every round he didn't score a KD in, fought a shell of Belly in the 1st fight

    J-Park - lost every round

    Liakhovich - shot to bits 2-4 in last 6, 3 of losses via KO or stoppage

    Stiverne - one of worst HW champs ever, head which is a magnet for right hands, slow feet, short reach ie. perfect stylistic match up

    Big Bang interim champ - lost every round before getting sparked out

    Big Joe

    Stopped Dubois
    KO'd J-Park
    KO'd Stiverne

    If we include amateur scalps too it gets a whole lot worse for The Dosser

    Prime Big Joe before his legendary slow-fast speed equilibrium was shot to bits >> The Dosser and it ain't close
     
    Serge, May 15, 2025 at 12:59 PM
    Serge, May 15, 2025 at 12:59 PM
    #18
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  4. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce has better wins but Wilder has better achievements...
     
    CroBox29, May 15, 2025 at 1:31 PM
    CroBox29, May 15, 2025 at 1:31 PM
    #19
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both rubbish if I'm being honest
     
    AdamT, May 15, 2025 at 1:38 PM
    AdamT, May 15, 2025 at 1:38 PM
    #20
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  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Wilder will be remembered as the greater fighter however, because he did hold a word title (although he held it hostage for years fighting journeymen).

    Joyce's win over Parker is better than any of Wilder's wins (Wilder avoided Parker when he was WBC titleholder, and later lost to him).
     
    Perkin Warbeck, May 15, 2025 at 3:45 PM
    Perkin Warbeck, May 15, 2025 at 3:45 PM
    #21
  7. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the top five is pretty dire.
     
    fencik45, May 15, 2025 at 10:14 PM
    fencik45, May 15, 2025 at 10:14 PM
    #22
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you base it purely on resume then Joyce, which is kind of shocking given Wilder was a long time title holder. Which goes to show how belts mean little and how good a job his people did to protect him and ensure he got the most from his meagre talent.
     
    Brighton bomber, May 15, 2025 at 10:47 PM
    Brighton bomber, May 15, 2025 at 10:47 PM
    #23
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